3 Sep
1998
3 Sep
'98
3:36 p.m.
I have three Apple II motherboards, several floppy drives, and cards
laying around. I would like to get one Apple II running. I don't have
any experience with Apple II computers. Is there any old timers on the
mailing list who can give me some help. I also will need the software
for running the computer (the boot disk, ect.).
--Alan
3 Sep
3 Sep
3:57 p.m.
Here's what I know.
Floppy drive controller goes in slot 5.
80 column adapter - if it's not a 2e - goes in 3. Pinter interface goes in 1.
As far as the operating system, you can ftp it down from apple - of course
you need an apple to write the disks. You can also order the OS disks from
alltech (www.allelec.com) for less than 10 bucks, I think. Alltech also
carries a surprizing number of *new* and refurbished hardware for the 2s
including roms, disk drives, interface cards, motherboards, ICs, monitors, and
so on. Even hard disks at VERY reasonable prices.
There's also a newsgroup, comp.sys.apple2 you can read about it. There
WERE some good FAQ pages from the group, but the maintainer threw a tantrum
and low-leveled his drives that held them in the process of leaving the
a2 community over piracy. (There's an ongoing debate whether pirating
software that is no longer commercially available is *wrong* or not,
as well as several pirate sites that pirate anything and everything.)
The other good place for information are the apple2 and apple2pro(grammer)
forums on Delphi. You can get delphi web access for free by hitting their
web site - www.delphi.com.
--
Jim Strickland
jim(a)calico.litterbox.com
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8:24 p.m.
On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Jim wrote:
Here's what I know.
Floppy drive controller goes in slot 5.
Actually, floppy controller can go in ANY slot. But typically, slot 6
(not 5) was used.
80 column adapter - if it's not a 2e - goes in 3.
Pinter interface goes
in 1.
Again, only by custom do the cards go where you specify. You can stick
the cards in whatever slot you'd like. There were SOME video cards that
had to go in slot 7 which had a special video signal present on that slot
only.
There's also a newsgroup, comp.sys.apple2 you can
read about it. There
WERE some good FAQ pages from the group, but the maintainer threw a tantrum
and low-leveled his drives that held them in the process of leaving the
a2 community over piracy. (There's an ongoing debate whether pirating
This guy was a mega turd. Although his FAQ was good, and his amazingly
peurile action of obliterating the FAQ over his personal holy war against
perceived or actual piracy of mostly obsolete software was indeed bizarre,
there are plenty of replacement FAQs available to help out the novice.
software that is no longer commercially available is
*wrong* or not,
as well as several pirate sites that pirate anything and everything.)
This debate is being perpetuated by people who have absolutely no life
whatsoever. I engaged in that debate for a few weeks and then went on
with my life. This was 2 years ago, AND THIS DEBATE IS STILL RAGING!
There are mostly new converts to this crusade, but some of the old players
are still there! Its absolutely amazing! A Usenet Jihad that has been
going on for nearly 3 years now, mostly unfettered!!! Some sociologists
would get a kick out of studying the human behaviour on this newsgroup
alone.
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10:57 p.m.
Sam Ismail wrote:
This debate is being perpetuated by people who have absolutely no life
whatsoever. I engaged in that debate for a few weeks and then went on
with my life. This was 2 years ago, AND THIS DEBATE IS STILL RAGING!
There are mostly new converts to this crusade, but some of the old players
are still there! Its absolutely amazing! A Usenet Jihad that has been
going on for nearly 3 years now, mostly unfettered!!! Some sociologists
would get a kick out of studying the human behaviour on this newsgroup
alone.
Sam Alternate e-mail:
Sam,
I was not aware of this. I will look through my archives. I downloaded
some Apple II FAQs about a year ago from somewhere on the web. Perhaps
it was the person you mentioned who authored them.
--Alan
4 Sep
4 Sep
4:33 a.m.
On 4 Sep 98 at 6:57, oajones wrote:
Sam Ismail wrote:
Actually, it was quite hilarious when it wasn't tedious. TMK Nathan Mates
and his supporters are now ensconced on the Delphi A2 forum.
comp.sys.apple2 has settled down into a more rational newsgroup with
only an occasional flurry sparked by a NM type doing a guerilla attack.
I downloaded NM's FAQ before he pulled it. I wonder what the status
of this formerly freely-distributed property is. Hmmm , might be fun to
upload it to the Asimov site and see the sparks fly. :^))
ciao larry
lwalker(a)interlog.com
This debate is being perpetuated by people who have absolutely no life
whatsoever. I engaged in that debate for a few weeks and then went on
with my life. This was 2 years ago, AND THIS DEBATE IS STILL RAGING!
There are mostly new converts to this crusade, but some of the old players
are still there! Its absolutely amazing! A Usenet Jihad that has been
going on for nearly 3 years now, mostly unfettered!!! Some sociologists
would get a kick out of studying the human behaviour on this newsgroup
alone.
Sam Alternate e-mail:
Sam,
I was not aware of this. I will look through my archives. I downloaded
some Apple II FAQs about a year ago from somewhere on the web. Perhaps
it was the person you mentioned who authored them.
--Alan
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1:24 p.m.
On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Tony Duell wrote:
Also slot 0 (far left, nearest the PSU) is odd in
software. You can't
access it with the standard PR# and IN# commands like you can all other
slots. In general only put language cards and Applesoft ROM cards there.
It might be worth mentioning that Apple //e's don't have a slot 0. The
"language card" (really just an additional 16K of bank-switched RAM) is
built-in. Also, on the //e slot 3 is tied in to the auxiliary slot, where
normally RAM and 80-column boards go. If you've got something in the aux.
slot, you can't put anything in slot 3, with some exceptions. For
instance, I have an AE TransWarp accelerator board in my //e that has a
3.3Mhz 6502 CPU which overrides the motherboard 6502 upon bootup. This
board is great in that it plugs into slot 3, in conjunction with my
expanded 80-column card in the aux. slot, and therefore does not waste a
slot.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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3 Sep
3 Sep
10:42 p.m.
Jim wrote:
Here's what I know.
Floppy drive controller goes in slot 5.
80 column adapter - if it's not a 2e - goes in 3. Pinter interface goes in 1.
As far as the operating system, you can ftp it down from apple - of course
you need an apple to write the disks. You can also order the OS disks from
alltech (www.allelec.com) for less than 10 bucks, I think. Alltech also
carries a surprizing number of *new* and refurbished hardware for the 2s
including roms, disk drives, interface cards, motherboards, ICs, monitors, and
so on. Even hard disks at VERY reasonable prices.
There's also a newsgroup, comp.sys.apple2 you can read about it. There
WERE some good FAQ pages from the group, but the maintainer threw a tantrum
and low-leveled his drives that held them in the process of leaving the
a2 community over piracy. (There's an ongoing debate whether pirating
software that is no longer commercially available is *wrong* or not,
as well as several pirate sites that pirate anything and everything.)
The other good place for information are the apple2 and apple2pro(grammer)
forums on Delphi. You can get delphi web access for free by hitting their
web site - www.delphi.com.
--
Jim Strickland
jim(a)calico.litterbox.com
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Hi Jim,
Thanks for taking the time to respond to my message. The information you
provided is very helpful. I know what you mean about the software
privacy issue regarding commercial software.
--Alan
8:14 p.m.
On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, oajones wrote:
I have three Apple II motherboards, several floppy
drives, and cards
laying around. I would like to get one Apple II running. I don't have
any experience with Apple II computers. Is there any old timers on the
mailing list who can give me some help. I also will need the software
for running the computer (the boot disk, ect.).
Not old-timers but people who spent enough time with it growing up to help
you out.
For starters, do you have a case and power supply? The case is optional
but the P/S is mandatory unfortunately.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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September 26 & 27...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0
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[Last web site update: 08/25/98]
10:49 p.m.
Sam Ismail wrote:
On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, oajones wrote:
Sam,
Yes, the motherboards are still in the cases and have the power
supplies, keyboards, cards, ect. Later today I will get back to you with
the model number written on the case.
--Alan
I have three Apple II motherboards, several
floppy drives, and cards
laying around. I would like to get one Apple II running. I don't have
any experience with Apple II computers. Is there any old timers on the
mailing list who can give me some help. I also will need the software
for running the computer (the boot disk, ect.).
Not old-timers but people who spent enough time with it growing up to help
you out.
For starters, do you have a case and power supply? The case is optional
but the P/S is mandatory unfortunately.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
4 Sep
4 Sep
6:07 a.m.
On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, oajones wrote:
Yes, the motherboards are still in the cases and have
the power
supplies, keyboards, cards, ect. Later today I will get back to you with
the model number written on the case.
No need for the model number. Its pretty irrelevant. Tell us what cards
you have. Most should have a name on the card that indicates what it is,
ie. "Disk ][ Controller".
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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