6 Jul
2010
6 Jul
'10
3:55 p.m.
a picture (or 2) might help Sharon :)
IIRC, the *8085* in the System 23/Datamaster wasn't identified as such. It had some
sort of IBM house number. Haven't opened mine in a while, but that's what I
remember.
Be specific about what you mean by p/s issues. And if that's the case, you're
advised to test the voltages under load...but not the motherboard load/s.
Perhaps you have a repackaged Datamaster. Mine unfortunately is *unavailable* for perusal
at this present time. I do believe there are other people on the list that have one, but
they don't seem to participate these days. Mine is buried beneath about 12 other
machines (was I supposed to put it on top? It weighs ~95 lbs yer know).
6 Jul
6 Jul
11:21 p.m.
I have a Datamaster, but I missed the conversation.
Is there something I can help with?
Mine is buried only one-deep.
--- On Tue, 7/6/10, Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
Subject: regarding Datamaster's and such
To: "talk" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 3:55 PM
a picture (or 2) might help Sharon
:)
IIRC, the *8085* in the System 23/Datamaster wasn't
identified as such. It had some sort of IBM house number.
Haven't opened mine in a while, but that's what I remember.
Be specific about what you mean by p/s issues. And if
that's the case, you're advised to test the voltages under
load...but not the motherboard load/s.
Perhaps you have a repackaged Datamaster. Mine
unfortunately is *unavailable* for perusal at this present
time. I do believe there are other people on the list that
have one, but they don't seem to participate these days.
Mine is buried beneath about 12 other machines (was I
supposed to put it on top? It weighs ~95 lbs yer know).
? ? ?
11:21 p.m.
I have a Datamaster, but I missed the conversation.
Is there something I can help with?
Mine is buried only one-deep.
--- On Tue, 7/6/10, Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
Subject: regarding Datamaster's and such
To: "talk" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 3:55 PM
a picture (or 2) might help Sharon
:)
IIRC, the *8085* in the System 23/Datamaster wasn't
identified as such. It had some sort of IBM house number.
Haven't opened mine in a while, but that's what I remember.
Be specific about what you mean by p/s issues. And if
that's the case, you're advised to test the voltages under
load...but not the motherboard load/s.
Perhaps you have a repackaged Datamaster. Mine
unfortunately is *unavailable* for perusal at this present
time. I do believe there are other people on the list that
have one, but they don't seem to participate these days.
Mine is buried beneath about 12 other machines (was I
supposed to put it on top? It weighs ~95 lbs yer know).
? ? ?
11:21 p.m.
I have a Datamaster, but I missed the conversation.
Is there something I can help with?
Mine is buried only one-deep.
--- On Tue, 7/6/10, Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
Subject: regarding Datamaster's and such
To: "talk" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 3:55 PM
a picture (or 2) might help Sharon
:)
IIRC, the *8085* in the System 23/Datamaster wasn't
identified as such. It had some sort of IBM house number.
Haven't opened mine in a while, but that's what I remember.
Be specific about what you mean by p/s issues. And if
that's the case, you're advised to test the voltages under
load...but not the motherboard load/s.
Perhaps you have a repackaged Datamaster. Mine
unfortunately is *unavailable* for perusal at this present
time. I do believe there are other people on the list that
have one, but they don't seem to participate these days.
Mine is buried beneath about 12 other machines (was I
supposed to put it on top? It weighs ~95 lbs yer know).
? ? ?
9 Jul
9 Jul
8:17 p.m.
Well, I have what is labeled as an IBM 5324. It appears to be a three
piece system from the datamaster line, with a seperate CPU tower,
monitor, keyboard, and printer. Only thing is, I can find no information
on this thing actually being made. I am trying to verify that the power
supply is actually working, but I have no data on it. Now, I also asked
about basic in ROM. Someone said they didn't. I read they did, or at
least some of them did. I can't find anything on an operating system,
and the thing appears to have a lot of rom chips on the board.
These are the things I have found so far:
IBM indicates some hardware and software options in the datamaster line
in their 1982 summary documents. Nothing else indicates anything other
than a one piece unit was offered. Nothing else indicates a model with
this number even though this thing is tagged all over as IBM hardware
made in New York.
From http://oldcomputers.net/ibm5322.html
The OS is listed as built in basic, and the ram card and CPU "module" in
this system is the same as what you see in my tower unit. You can see
the floppy controller card plugged in on the far side of the CPU card
with the yellow interface cable wires. In fact, I just need to know the
nominal voltages that should be found on that red power connector. I
have a feeling that I am missing some +5 and +12 power feeds, but I need
to know what I am looking at. I measured using chassis ground and only
got voltages on a couple of pins, and they all appeared to be negative.
I think I am going to have to open the power supply, but those large
caps always make me nervous.
This is the same board, way different format, and all genuine IBM. I
have that same green monitor in a separate unit with two cables that
connect back to the tower. It has two legs that go up in the monitor
cabinet that the thing can lift and drop on, and tilt.
It has been in "storage" for a while, so I rather clean it up before I
take any pictures of it. Maybe I'll get a chance to do that next week.
If I need any software or 8" floppies where can I find those? And is
there any refrence manuals? You would think someone could find this
stuff online someplace.
Thanks
Shannon
On 7/7/2010 1:21 AM, steven stengel wrote:
I have a Datamaster, but I missed the conversation.
Is there something I can help with?
Mine is buried only one-deep.
--- On Tue, 7/6/10, Chris M<chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Chris M<chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
Subject: regarding Datamaster's and such
To: "talk"<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 3:55 PM
a picture (or 2) might help Sharon
:)
IIRC, the *8085* in the System 23/Datamaster wasn't
identified as such. It had some sort of IBM house number.
Haven't opened mine in a while, but that's what I remember.
Be specific about what you mean by p/s issues. And if
that's the case, you're advised to test the voltages under
load...but not the motherboard load/s.
Perhaps you have a repackaged Datamaster. Mine
unfortunately is *unavailable* for perusal at this present
time. I do believe there are other people on the list that
have one, but they don't seem to participate these days.
Mine is buried beneath about 12 other machines (was I
supposed to put it on top? It weighs ~95 lbs yer know).
10 Jul
10 Jul
6:33 p.m.
how's about a preliminary picture...
some of the internals would be nice also. If you have an oddball, it's immoral not to
share and be nice :)
12 Jul
12 Jul
4:11 p.m.
Some DataMaster pics - I hope this help, or is of interest!
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/2.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/3.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/4.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/5.jpg
--- On Fri, 7/9/10, Shannon Spurling <sspurling at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Shannon Spurling <sspurling at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: regarding Datamaster's and such
To: cctech at classiccmp.org
Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 8:17 PM
Well, I have what is labeled as an
IBM 5324. It appears to be a three piece system from the
datamaster line, with a seperate CPU tower, monitor,
keyboard, and printer. Only thing is, I can find no
information on this thing actually being made. I am trying
to verify that the power supply is actually working, but I
have no data on it. Now, I also asked about basic in ROM.
Someone said they didn't. I read they did, or at least some
of them did. I can't find anything on an operating system,
and the thing appears to have a lot of rom chips on the
board.
These are the things I have found so far:
IBM indicates some hardware and software options in the
datamaster line in their 1982 summary documents. Nothing
else indicates anything other than a one piece unit was
offered. Nothing else indicates a model with this number
even though this thing is tagged all over as IBM hardware
made in New York.
From http://oldcomputers.net/ibm5322.html
The OS is listed as built in basic, and the ram card and
CPU "module" in this system is the same as what you see in
my tower unit. You can see the floppy controller card
plugged in on the far side of the CPU card with the yellow
interface cable wires. In fact, I just need to know the
nominal voltages that should be found on that red power
connector. I have a feeling that I am missing some +5 and
+12 power feeds, but I need to know what I am looking at. I
measured using chassis ground and only got voltages on a
couple of pins, and they all appeared to be negative. I
think I am going to have to open the power supply, but those
large caps always make me nervous.
This is the same board, way different format, and all
genuine IBM. I have that same green monitor in a separate
unit with two cables that connect back to the tower. It has
two legs that go up in the monitor cabinet that the thing
can lift and drop on, and tilt.
It has been in "storage" for a while, so I rather clean it
up before I take any pictures of it. Maybe I'll get a chance
to do that next week. If I need any software or 8" floppies
where can I find those? And is there any refrence manuals?
You would think someone could find this stuff online
someplace.
Thanks
Shannon
On 7/7/2010 1:21 AM, steven stengel wrote:
I have a Datamaster, but I missed the
conversation.
Is there something I can help with?
Mine is buried only one-deep.
--- On Tue, 7/6/10, Chris M<chrism3667 at yahoo.com>?
wrote:
> From: Chris M<chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: regarding Datamaster's and such
> To: "talk"<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 3:55 PM
> a picture (or 2) might help Sharon
> :)
>
> IIRC, the *8085* in the System 23/Datamaster
wasn't
> identified as such. It had some sort of IBM
house
number.
> Haven't opened mine in a while, but
that's what I
remember.
>
> Be specific about what you mean by p/s issues. And
if
> that's the case, you're advised to
test the
voltages under
> load...but not the motherboard load/s.
>
> Perhaps you have a repackaged Datamaster. Mine
> unfortunately is *unavailable* for perusal at this
present
> time. I do believe there are other people on
the
list that
> have one, but they don't seem to
participate these
days.
> Mine is buried beneath about 12 other
machines
(was I
> supposed to put it on top? It weighs ~95 lbs
yer
know).
4:11 p.m.
Some DataMaster pics - I hope this help, or is of interest!
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/2.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/3.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/4.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/5.jpg
--- On Fri, 7/9/10, Shannon Spurling <sspurling at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Shannon Spurling <sspurling at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: regarding Datamaster's and such
To: cctech at classiccmp.org
Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 8:17 PM
Well, I have what is labeled as an
IBM 5324. It appears to be a three piece system from the
datamaster line, with a seperate CPU tower, monitor,
keyboard, and printer. Only thing is, I can find no
information on this thing actually being made. I am trying
to verify that the power supply is actually working, but I
have no data on it. Now, I also asked about basic in ROM.
Someone said they didn't. I read they did, or at least some
of them did. I can't find anything on an operating system,
and the thing appears to have a lot of rom chips on the
board.
These are the things I have found so far:
IBM indicates some hardware and software options in the
datamaster line in their 1982 summary documents. Nothing
else indicates anything other than a one piece unit was
offered. Nothing else indicates a model with this number
even though this thing is tagged all over as IBM hardware
made in New York.
From http://oldcomputers.net/ibm5322.html
The OS is listed as built in basic, and the ram card and
CPU "module" in this system is the same as what you see in
my tower unit. You can see the floppy controller card
plugged in on the far side of the CPU card with the yellow
interface cable wires. In fact, I just need to know the
nominal voltages that should be found on that red power
connector. I have a feeling that I am missing some +5 and
+12 power feeds, but I need to know what I am looking at. I
measured using chassis ground and only got voltages on a
couple of pins, and they all appeared to be negative. I
think I am going to have to open the power supply, but those
large caps always make me nervous.
This is the same board, way different format, and all
genuine IBM. I have that same green monitor in a separate
unit with two cables that connect back to the tower. It has
two legs that go up in the monitor cabinet that the thing
can lift and drop on, and tilt.
It has been in "storage" for a while, so I rather clean it
up before I take any pictures of it. Maybe I'll get a chance
to do that next week. If I need any software or 8" floppies
where can I find those? And is there any refrence manuals?
You would think someone could find this stuff online
someplace.
Thanks
Shannon
On 7/7/2010 1:21 AM, steven stengel wrote:
I have a Datamaster, but I missed the
conversation.
Is there something I can help with?
Mine is buried only one-deep.
--- On Tue, 7/6/10, Chris M<chrism3667 at yahoo.com>?
wrote:
> From: Chris M<chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: regarding Datamaster's and such
> To: "talk"<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 3:55 PM
> a picture (or 2) might help Sharon
> :)
>
> IIRC, the *8085* in the System 23/Datamaster
wasn't
> identified as such. It had some sort of IBM
house
number.
> Haven't opened mine in a while, but
that's what I
remember.
>
> Be specific about what you mean by p/s issues. And
if
> that's the case, you're advised to
test the
voltages under
> load...but not the motherboard load/s.
>
> Perhaps you have a repackaged Datamaster. Mine
> unfortunately is *unavailable* for perusal at this
present
> time. I do believe there are other people on
the
list that
> have one, but they don't seem to
participate these
days.
> Mine is buried beneath about 12 other
machines
(was I
> supposed to put it on top? It weighs ~95 lbs
yer
know).
4:11 p.m.
Some DataMaster pics - I hope this help, or is of interest!
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/2.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/3.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/4.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/5.jpg
--- On Fri, 7/9/10, Shannon Spurling <sspurling at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Shannon Spurling <sspurling at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: regarding Datamaster's and such
To: cctech at classiccmp.org
Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 8:17 PM
Well, I have what is labeled as an
IBM 5324. It appears to be a three piece system from the
datamaster line, with a seperate CPU tower, monitor,
keyboard, and printer. Only thing is, I can find no
information on this thing actually being made. I am trying
to verify that the power supply is actually working, but I
have no data on it. Now, I also asked about basic in ROM.
Someone said they didn't. I read they did, or at least some
of them did. I can't find anything on an operating system,
and the thing appears to have a lot of rom chips on the
board.
These are the things I have found so far:
IBM indicates some hardware and software options in the
datamaster line in their 1982 summary documents. Nothing
else indicates anything other than a one piece unit was
offered. Nothing else indicates a model with this number
even though this thing is tagged all over as IBM hardware
made in New York.
From http://oldcomputers.net/ibm5322.html
The OS is listed as built in basic, and the ram card and
CPU "module" in this system is the same as what you see in
my tower unit. You can see the floppy controller card
plugged in on the far side of the CPU card with the yellow
interface cable wires. In fact, I just need to know the
nominal voltages that should be found on that red power
connector. I have a feeling that I am missing some +5 and
+12 power feeds, but I need to know what I am looking at. I
measured using chassis ground and only got voltages on a
couple of pins, and they all appeared to be negative. I
think I am going to have to open the power supply, but those
large caps always make me nervous.
This is the same board, way different format, and all
genuine IBM. I have that same green monitor in a separate
unit with two cables that connect back to the tower. It has
two legs that go up in the monitor cabinet that the thing
can lift and drop on, and tilt.
It has been in "storage" for a while, so I rather clean it
up before I take any pictures of it. Maybe I'll get a chance
to do that next week. If I need any software or 8" floppies
where can I find those? And is there any refrence manuals?
You would think someone could find this stuff online
someplace.
Thanks
Shannon
On 7/7/2010 1:21 AM, steven stengel wrote:
I have a Datamaster, but I missed the
conversation.
Is there something I can help with?
Mine is buried only one-deep.
--- On Tue, 7/6/10, Chris M<chrism3667 at yahoo.com>?
wrote:
> From: Chris M<chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: regarding Datamaster's and such
> To: "talk"<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 3:55 PM
> a picture (or 2) might help Sharon
> :)
>
> IIRC, the *8085* in the System 23/Datamaster
wasn't
> identified as such. It had some sort of IBM
house
number.
> Haven't opened mine in a while, but
that's what I
remember.
>
> Be specific about what you mean by p/s issues. And
if
> that's the case, you're advised to
test the
voltages under
> load...but not the motherboard load/s.
>
> Perhaps you have a repackaged Datamaster. Mine
> unfortunately is *unavailable* for perusal at this
present
> time. I do believe there are other people on
the
list that
> have one, but they don't seem to
participate these
days.
> Mine is buried beneath about 12 other
machines
(was I
> supposed to put it on top? It weighs ~95 lbs
yer
know).
13 Jul
13 Jul
5:53 p.m.
Cool! Thanks for the pictures and information. I was able to find the
power tabs labeled in the silk screen on the power supply board. This
saves me from having to trace them down. I recognize the floppy
controller, and the ram card in those pictures. What are the other two
expansion cards? I also remember there being some kind of frame that
kind of held the ram card in place, and I am not sure what I did with
it. I don't see one on your system. Is there any kind of mechanical
support tab or rail on the back of your ram card to hold it in the slot?
Thanks
Shannon
On 7/12/2010 6:11 PM, steven stengel wrote:
Some DataMaster pics - I hope this help, or is of
interest!
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/2.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/3.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/4.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/5.jpg
--- On Fri, 7/9/10, Shannon Spurling<sspurling at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Shannon Spurling<sspurling at
gmail.com>
Subject: Re: regarding Datamaster's and such
To: cctech at classiccmp.org
Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 8:17 PM
Well, I have what is labeled as an
IBM 5324. It appears to be a three piece system from the
datamaster line, with a seperate CPU tower, monitor,
keyboard, and printer. Only thing is, I can find no
information on this thing actually being made. I am trying
to verify that the power supply is actually working, but I
have no data on it. Now, I also asked about basic in ROM.
Someone said they didn't. I read they did, or at least some
of them did. I can't find anything on an operating system,
and the thing appears to have a lot of rom chips on the
board.
These are the things I have found so far:
IBM indicates some hardware and software options in the
datamaster line in their 1982 summary documents. Nothing
else indicates anything other than a one piece unit was
offered. Nothing else indicates a model with this number
even though this thing is tagged all over as IBM hardware
made in New York.
From http://oldcomputers.net/ibm5322.html
The OS is listed as built in basic, and the ram card and
CPU "module" in this system is the same as what you see in
my tower unit. You can see the floppy controller card
plugged in on the far side of the CPU card with the yellow
interface cable wires. In fact, I just need to know the
nominal voltages that should be found on that red power
connector. I have a feeling that I am missing some +5 and
+12 power feeds, but I need to know what I am looking at. I
measured using chassis ground and only got voltages on a
couple of pins, and they all appeared to be negative. I
think I am going to have to open the power supply, but those
large caps always make me nervous.
This is the same board, way different format, and all
genuine IBM. I have that same green monitor in a separate
unit with two cables that connect back to the tower. It has
two legs that go up in the monitor cabinet that the thing
can lift and drop on, and tilt.
It has been in "storage" for a while, so I rather clean it
up before I take any pictures of it. Maybe I'll get a chance
to do that next week. If I need any software or 8" floppies
where can I find those? And is there any refrence manuals?
You would think someone could find this stuff online
someplace.
Thanks
Shannon
On 7/7/2010 1:21 AM, steven stengel wrote:
I have a Datamaster, but I missed the
conversation.
Is there something I can help with?
Mine is buried only one-deep.
--- On Tue, 7/6/10, Chris M<chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
> From: Chris M<chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: regarding Datamaster's and such
> To: "talk"<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 3:55 PM
> a picture (or 2) might help Sharon
> :)
>
> IIRC, the *8085* in the System 23/Datamaster
wasn't
> identified as such. It had some sort of IBM
house
number.
> Haven't opened mine in a while, but
that's what I
remember.
> Be specific about what you mean by p/s
issues. And
if
> that's the case, you're advised to
test the
voltages under
> load...but not the motherboard load/s.
>
> Perhaps you have a repackaged Datamaster. Mine
> unfortunately is *unavailable* for perusal at this
present
> time. I do believe there are other people on
the
list that
> have one, but they don't seem to
participate these
days.
> Mine is buried beneath about 12 other
machines
(was I
> supposed to put it on top? It weighs ~95 lbs
yer
know).
14 Jul
14 Jul
12:09 a.m.
I'm not sure about what all of the cards are for, but the RAM card just kind of sits
there, with no visible means of support.
--- On Tue, 7/13/10, Shannon Spurling <sspurling at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Shannon Spurling <sspurling at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: regarding Datamaster's and such
To: "On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 5:53 PM
? Cool! Thanks for the pictures
and information. I was able to find the
power tabs labeled in the silk screen on the power supply
board. This
saves me from having to trace them down. I recognize the
floppy
controller, and the ram card in those pictures. What are
the other two
expansion cards? I also remember there being some kind of
frame that
kind of held the ram card in place, and I am not sure what
I did with
it. I don't see one on your system. Is there any kind of
mechanical
support tab or rail on the back of your ram card to hold it
in the slot?
Thanks
Shannon
On 7/12/2010 6:11 PM, steven stengel wrote:
Some DataMaster pics - I hope this help, or is of
interest!
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/2.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/3.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/4.jpg
http://members.cox.net/stengel/temp/5.jpg
--- On Fri, 7/9/10, Shannon Spurling<sspurling at gmail.com>?
wrote:
> From: Shannon Spurling<sspurling at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: regarding Datamaster's and such
> To: cctech at classiccmp.org
> Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 8:17 PM
>???Well, I have what is labeled as
an
> IBM 5324. It appears to be a three piece
system
from the
> datamaster line, with a seperate CPU tower,
monitor,
> keyboard, and printer. Only thing is, I can
find
no
> information on this thing actually being
made. I
am trying
> to verify that the power supply is actually
working, but I
> have no data on it. Now, I also asked about
basic
in ROM.
> Someone said they didn't. I read they
did, or at
least some
> of them did. I can't find anything on an
operating
system,
> and the thing appears to have a lot of rom
chips
on the
> board.
>
> These are the things I have found so far:
>
> IBM indicates some hardware and software options
in the
> datamaster line in their 1982 summary
documents.
Nothing
> else indicates anything other than a one
piece
unit was
> offered. Nothing else indicates a model with
this
number
> even though this thing is tagged all over as
IBM
hardware
> made in New York.
>
>? From http://oldcomputers.net/ibm5322.html
>
> The OS is listed as built in basic, and the ram
card and
> CPU "module" in this system is the
same as what
you see in
> my tower unit. You can see the floppy
controller
card
> plugged in on the far side of the CPU card
with
the yellow
> interface cable wires. In fact, I just need
to
know the
> nominal voltages that should be found on that
red
power
> connector. I have a feeling that I am missing
some
+5 and
> +12 power feeds, but I need to know what I am
looking at. I
> measured using chassis ground and only got
voltages on a
> couple of pins, and they all appeared to be
negative. I
> think I am going to have to open the power
supply,
but those
> large caps always make me nervous.
> This is the same board, way different format, and
all
> genuine IBM. I have that same green monitor
in a
separate
> unit with two cables that connect back to the
tower. It has
> two legs that go up in the monitor cabinet
that
the thing
> can lift and drop on, and tilt.
>
> It has been in "storage" for a while, so I rather
clean it
> up before I take any pictures of it. Maybe
I'll
get a chance
> to do that next week. If I need any software
or 8"
floppies
> where can I find those? And is there any
refrence
manuals?
> You would think someone could find this stuff
online
> someplace.
>
> Thanks
>
> Shannon
>
>
> On 7/7/2010 1:21 AM, steven stengel wrote:
>> I have a Datamaster, but I missed the
conversation.
>> Is there something I can help with?
>> Mine is buried only one-deep.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 7/6/10, Chris M<chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>>> From: Chris M<chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: regarding Datamaster's and such
>>> To: "talk"<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>>> Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 3:55 PM
>>> a picture (or 2) might help Sharon
>>> :)
>>>
>>> IIRC, the *8085* in the System
23/Datamaster
> wasn't
>>> identified as such. It had some sort of
IBM house
> number.
>>> Haven't opened mine in a while, but that's
what I
> remember.
>>> Be specific about what you mean by p/s
issues. And
> if
>>> that's the case, you're advised to test
the
> voltages under
>>> load...but not the motherboard load/s.
>>>
>>> Perhaps you have a repackaged Datamaster.
Mine
>>> unfortunately is *unavailable* for
perusal
at this
> present
>>> time. I do believe there are other people
on the
> list that
>>> have one, but they don't seem to
participate these
> days.
>>> Mine is buried beneath about 12 other
machines
> (was I
>>> supposed to put it on top? It weighs ~95
lbs yer
know).
>
>
>
>
12 Jul
12 Jul
10:11 p.m.
Shannon,
There were at least two computer models: 5322 (all-in-one) and 5324
(screen plus deskside), three printer models: 5217, 5241 and 5242, an
external dual 8" diskette unit (5246), and a networked floorstanding
fixed disk unit (5247). IIRC, the 5324 computer and the 5247 disk unit
looked pretty similar except that the computer has floppy drives. The
disk unit was available in at least two variants - 15MB and 30MB.
My first draft of this message suggested that you try using the search
term "system/23", but I tried it, and it doesn't help. :( I'm guessing
the narrow market segment and relatively short life span, plus IBM's
copyrights and such, are the cause.
De
13 Jul
13 Jul
5:48 p.m.
On 7/13/2010 12:11 AM, Dennis Boone wrote:
Shannon,
There were at least two computer models: 5322 (all-in-one) and 5324
(screen plus deskside), three printer models: 5217, 5241 and 5242, an
external dual 8" diskette unit (5246), and a networked floorstanding
fixed disk unit (5247). IIRC, the 5324 computer and the 5247 disk unit
looked pretty similar except that the computer has floppy drives. The
disk unit was available in at least two variants - 15MB and 30MB.
My first draft of this message suggested that you try using the search
term "system/23", but I tried it, and it doesn't help. :( I'm
guessing
the narrow market segment and relatively short life span, plus IBM's
copyrights and such, are the cause.
De
Yup, that's exactly what I was looking for and could find no mention of.
Not even on wiki's or classic computer directories that I could find
talking about the Datamaster system. Usually they just say that an all
in one predecessor of the PC called the Datamaster or System/23 was
released months before the PC release date. I can't even find pictures
of the 5324 unit, which is what I have. Just wish I could get this thing
to boot. I think I may have corroded connections or something.
So, is the basic in ROM? Do I have to have a system disk to get this
thing to work?
I really appreciate any additional information on this, and maybe these
answers will help someone else too.
Thanks
Shannon
16 Jul
16 Jul
10:10 a.m.
I've just been catching up on Classiccmp, and I found this discussion.
I'd never heard of a 5324 before either, but from the number I guessed
it was a System/23 (my Datamaster is a 5322).
I have the 5322 service manual. It's not particularly useful, but you
may find it of benefit. If you'd like it I'll try and scan it at work
next week.
So, is the basic in ROM? Do I have to have a system
disk to get this
thing to work?
Yes, BASIC is in ROM. Quite a big basic - I think there's about 128K of
ROM in this beast!
IIRC you don't need a system disk. But it fails power on diagnostics if
the printer isn't plugged into it and switched on.
HTH
Philip.
17 Jul
17 Jul
11:51 a.m.
New subject: scanning is a huge waste of time was Re: regarding Datamaster's and such
Philip, do yourself a favor. Use a digital camera. I own a smallish unit, believe it or
not the name escapes me at the moment, and it delivers totally readable snaps of whatever
I intend to archive. It's more then adequate. If you attempt to scan something, well,
it might never happen. And you'll tare whatever you're trying to scan to hell.
Canon coolpix or something. I think that's it.
It's better to have something *out there*, then nothing at all. I'm not
apologizing for the quality of the stills. Hell my first attempt at archiving material was
5 or 6 years ago using an Aiptek pencam (1.2 megapix allegedly, and a *real* glass lense,
that I needed to rotate by hand to get the proper focus incidentally). I was flabbergasted
at the quality of the results on the very first try using that hunk of crap.
--- On Fri, 7/16/10, Philip Belben <philip at axeside.co.uk> wrote:
From: Philip Belben <philip at axeside.co.uk>
Subject: Re: regarding Datamaster's and such
To: "On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 1:10 PM
I've just been catching up on
Classiccmp, and I found this discussion.
I'd never heard of a 5324 before either, but from the
number I guessed it was a System/23 (my Datamaster is a
5322).
I have the 5322 service manual.? It's not particularly
useful, but you may find it of benefit.? If you'd like
it I'll try and scan it at work next week.
So, is the basic in ROM? Do I have to have a
system
disk to get this thing to work?
Yes, BASIC is in ROM.? Quite a big basic - I think
there's about 128K of ROM in this beast!
IIRC you don't need a system disk.? But it fails power
on diagnostics if the printer isn't plugged into it and
switched on.
HTH
Philip.
1:02 p.m.
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010, Chris M wrote:
I was goingto ask...
There is a well-known equivalents list between HP house numbers and
stnadard numbers in various issues of Bench Briefs (which are now on the
web I think). IS there a similar list for IBM house numbers...
[With reference to the HP list, be careful. Some chips were dropped from
later editions of thr list, it appears only those chips in instruemtns
that were still supported by HP are included. You may need to check
several lists to find the IC. Don't ask how I discovered this!]
-tony
IIRC, the *8085* in the System 23/Datamaster
wasn't identified as such.
According to my list, the 8085 has the IBM number 4178615. 
8 Jul
8 Jul
2:02 a.m.
New subject: IBM house numbers (was: regarding Datamaster's and such)
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010, Tony Duell wrote:
I was goingto ask...
There is a well-known equivalents list between HP house numbers and
stnadard numbers in various issues of Bench Briefs (which are now on the
web I think). IS there a similar list for IBM house numbers...
Well, not officially and not as exhaustive, but here's what I have
(collected from some bad photocopies that I got from an IBM employee):
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/cm/ibmparts.txt
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