18 Feb
2015
18 Feb
'15
9:15 a.m.
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 08:06:14AM -0600, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
Your membership in the mailing list cctalk has been
disabled due to excessive
bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 18-Feb-2015. You will not
get any more messages from this list until you re-enable your membership. You
will receive 3 more reminders like this before your membership in the list is
deleted.
These automatic unsubscriptions are getting tedious. I'm not bouncing cctalk
mail, but I *am* bouncing all mail from cctech since I never subscribed and the
list software has ignored all reasonable efforts to unsubscribe. Evidently
there's a misconfiguration somewhere that is linking the two lists like Siamese
twins.
I did drop Jay a line offering to look at and fix the configuration, but that
mail seems to have vanished into the void along with my cctech unsubscription
attempts.
So, is there any way to receve cctalk and not cctech?
18 Feb
18 Feb
10:37 a.m.
1) There is not a misconfiguration.
2) Yes, the two lists are joined like Siamese Twins. That was not my call,
and it's a royal pain. But.. "it is what it is".
3) I never received any email from you asking me to look at the issue.
Ostensibly - your mx host and ours don't like eachother (or the path
between).
4) I'd love to know how you're getting cctech traffic, since I just checked
and you are most definitely not subscribed to that list. Perhaps you are
referring to cctech posts that are gated to cctalk and the headers reflect
that? It's valid list traffic.
5) I apologize for my top-posting.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Peter
Corlett
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:15 AM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: confirm 0c60d0dc1a8d8488f744c3297b5450c6019d9dc6
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 08:06:14AM -0600, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org
wrote:
Your membership in the mailing list cctalk has been
disabled due to
excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
18-Feb-2015. You will not get any more messages from this list until
you re-enable your membership. You will receive 3 more reminders like
this before your membership in the list is deleted.
These automatic unsubscriptions are getting tedious. I'm not bouncing cctalk
mail, but I *am* bouncing all mail from cctech since I never subscribed and
the list software has ignored all reasonable efforts to unsubscribe.
Evidently there's a misconfiguration somewhere that is linking the two lists
like Siamese twins.
I did drop Jay a line offering to look at and fix the configuration, but
that mail seems to have vanished into the void along with my cctech
unsubscription attempts.
So, is there any way to receve cctalk and not cctech?
11:10 a.m.
Hi Jay,
4) I'd love to know how you're getting cctech traffic, since I just checked
and you are most definitely not subscribed to that list. Perhaps you are
referring to cctech posts that are gated to cctalk and the headers reflect
that? It's valid list traffic.
I investigated a similar issue with my subscription and posted on the list
about it in November last.
The short summary is as follows:
Before the big event, I was subscribed to cctech only. After the big event, I
remained subscribed to cctech only but received two copies of nearly everything,
one with:
Return-path: <cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org>
and one with:
Return-path: <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org>
I tried unsubscribing from cctalk. I couldn't because I wasn't subscribed.
I eventually unsubscribed from cctech and subscribed to cctalk. I found I
was getting almost no duplicates after that. The off-topic stuff wasn't a
problem because very little off-topic stuff was being posted.
However, the number of duplicates has increased recently. I suspect that I
am getting one copy of mails posted to cctalk and two copies of mails posted
to cctech, the opposite situation of when I was on cctech. Back in November,
very few postings were going to cctech so being subscribed to cctalk seemed
to be the best option at that time.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
11:47 a.m.
4) I'd love to know how you're getting cctech
traffic, since I just
checked and you are most definitely not subscribed to that list.
Perhaps you are referring to cctech posts that are gated to cctalk
and the headers reflect that? It's valid list traffic.
I don't know about the OP, but I've been getting duplicates of some
mail. (Curiously, according to the Delivered-To: headers, both copies
came through cctech, though the rest of the headers, like List-* and
X-BeenThere, show cctalk for one copy and cctech for the other.)
I once, back very soon after the list loss-and-recovery, tried to unsub
from cctech and the automated system told me I
wasn't subscribed - but,
IIRC, it was using the envelope-from rather than the
header-From: from
my mail, so I'm not sure I entirely trust it.
I just now put an example up on ftp.rodents-montreal.org; see
/mouse/misc/classiccmp/msg-cctalk.txt and .../msg-cctech.txt for them.
/~\ The ASCII Mouse
\ / Ribbon Campaign
X Against HTML mouse at rodents-montreal.org
/ \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B
4:07 p.m.
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015, Mouse wrote:
I'm having the same issue. I was subscribed to cctalk only and began
getting emails from both cctalk and cctech after the list came back
online. It hasn't bothered me much since I just wrote a procmail rule to
filter it. I figured it would clear up once the list configuration stuff
got resolved.
4) I'd
love to know how you're getting cctech traffic, since I just
checked and you are most definitely not subscribed to that list.
Perhaps you are referring to cctech posts that are gated to cctalk and
the headers reflect that? It's valid list traffic.
I don't know about the OP, but I've been getting duplicates of some
mail. (Curiously, according to the Delivered-To: headers, both copies
came through cctech, though the rest of the headers, like List-* and
X-BeenThere, show cctalk for one copy and cctech for the other.)
I once, back very soon after the list loss-and-recovery, tried to unsub
from cctech and the automated system told me I wasn't subscribed - but,
IIRC, it was using the envelope-from rather than the header-From: from
my mail, so I'm not sure I entirely trust it.
I just now put an example up on ftp.rodents-montreal.org; see
/mouse/misc/classiccmp/msg-cctalk.txt and .../msg-cctech.txt for them.
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