13 Jul
2001
13 Jul
'01
12:48 p.m.
Picked 4 items from the 3m auction today 2 are not of age but must talk
about them anyway.
1. mTi Accumcasure system 1000
2. Vibrace model 350 Flexible Disc tester type MDL TM-350
3. HP 9000 D Class with PA-RISC power, cdrom, tape backup and SCSI drive
in nice HP rack
4. HP system rack with 7 SCSI SE drives and 2 tape backup units
Also picked up the August 2001 issue of PCWorld and they have a 4 page
article on the history of computing with pictures.
13 Jul
13 Jul
12:46 p.m.
New subject: "History" of computing (was: Great new addition to collection
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, John R. Keys Jr. wrote:
Also picked up the August 2001 issue of PCWorld and
they have a 4 page
article on the history of computing with pictures.
Is that the one that has Lincoln Spector's bit about PC-DOS 1.0 that was
based partially on discussions on this list?
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
12:49 p.m.
New subject: "History" of computing (was: Great new addition to collection
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, John R. Keys Jr. wrote:
Was it?
BTW, Lincoln was a speaker at VCF 1.0 :)~
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
Also picked up the August 2001 issue of PCWorld
and they have a 4 page
article on the history of computing with pictures.
Is that the one that has Lincoln Spector's bit about PC-DOS 1.0 that was
based partially on discussions on this list?
2:07 p.m.
New subject: "History" of computing (was: Great new addition to collection
> Is that the one that has Lincoln Spector's
bit about PC-DOS 1.0 that was
> based partially on discussions on this list?
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Sellam
Ismail wrote:
Was it?
BTW, Lincoln was a speaker at VCF 1.0 :)~
At Lincoln's request, I did some stopwatch tests on PC-DOS 1.00 in
5150 in terms of time to boot, etc.
It was at the same time as a thread during the middle of March here about
whether there had ever been a 1.00 by people who didn't get into the PC
until later.
YOU started that thread with:
Is it true that there was never a release of PC/MS-DOS
1.0, and that the
first production release was 1.10?
Then I sold my original of 1.00 to somebody on the list.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
2:27 p.m.
New subject: "History" of computing (was: Great new addition to collection
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
At Lincoln's request, I did some stopwatch tests
on PC-DOS 1.00 in
5150 in terms of time to boot, etc.
It was at the same time as a thread during the middle of March here about
whether there had ever been a 1.00 by people who didn't get into the PC
until later.
YOU started that thread with:
> Is it true that there was never a release of PC/MS-DOS 1.0, and that the
> first production release was 1.10?
Yes, I remember now. This was, in fact, prompted by Lincoln sending me a
message asking this question :)
Then I sold my original of 1.00 to somebody on the
list.
Score! :)
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
4:28 p.m.
New subject: MS/PC-DOS replacements (was: "History" of computing)
Speaking of MS-DOS or PC-DOS, how many here recall using improved
MS-DOS replacements, overlays or "environments?" For example, Wendin-DOS
and it's UNIX-like and VMS-like emulation, or such multi-tasking and
multi-user envorinments that ran on top of MS/PC-DOS such as VMiX?
I remember first using VMiX to attach terminals to PeeCees as well as
using this with a second monitor - I had both a Hercules color VGA
card as well as a Hercules monochrome graphics adapter in the system
and used both displays at one time. Sometimes VMiX would work and I
could run my BBS (using the QuickBBS software) while also doing other
things with the system. Alas, I never sent in the registration fee
for VMiX and hence never got the full technical details/documentation,
etc. that would have supposedly made it more useful. Did anyone here
ever register it and get that info.?
This reminds me... I've got to figure out how to write a program to extract
all of the old messages from the QuickBBS database files and save them as
text files.
Getting back to Wendin-DOS, I understand that it's creator ended up
being sucked into Microsoft as an employee. Does anyone know how many
small companies that could have been good competetion got sucked up
that way into the black hole known as Microsoft?
--
Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals:
All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature &
rdd(a)rddavis.net 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such
http://www.rddavis.net beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.
11:51 p.m.
New subject: MS/PC-DOS replacements (was: "History" of computing)
There was DrDos and 4Dos (also known as Norton NDos) as well. 4Dos I
remember well as I still use it regularly on my old 5150 PC.
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of R. D. Davis
-> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 11:29 PM
-> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> Subject: MS/PC-DOS replacements (was: "History" of computing)
->
->
->
-> Speaking of MS-DOS or PC-DOS, how many here recall using improved
-> MS-DOS replacements, overlays or "environments?" For example,
-> Wendin-DOS
-> and it's UNIX-like and VMS-like emulation, or such multi-tasking and
-> multi-user envorinments that ran on top of MS/PC-DOS such as VMiX?
->
-> I remember first using VMiX to attach terminals to PeeCees as well as
-> using this with a second monitor - I had both a Hercules color VGA
-> card as well as a Hercules monochrome graphics adapter in the system
-> and used both displays at one time. Sometimes VMiX would work and I
-> could run my BBS (using the QuickBBS software) while also doing other
-> things with the system. Alas, I never sent in the registration fee
-> for VMiX and hence never got the full technical details/documentation,
-> etc. that would have supposedly made it more useful. Did anyone here
-> ever register it and get that info.?
->
-> This reminds me... I've got to figure out how to write a program
-> to extract
-> all of the old messages from the QuickBBS database files and save them as
-> text files.
->
-> Getting back to Wendin-DOS, I understand that it's creator ended up
-> being sucked into Microsoft as an employee. Does anyone know how many
-> small companies that could have been good competetion got sucked up
-> that way into the black hole known as Microsoft?
->
-> --
-> Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans &
-> other animals:
-> All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're
-> above Nature &
-> rdd(a)rddavis.net 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma
-> to justify such
-> http://www.rddavis.net beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.
->
14 Jul
14 Jul
10:27 a.m.
New subject: MS/PC-DOS replacements (was: "History" of computing)
4Dos is just a CCP replacement (replaces Command.com, not the whole of DOS.
you still need to havea DOS core to run it on.)
At 06:51 AM 7/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
There was DrDos and 4Dos (also known as Norton NDos) as
well. 4Dos I
remember well as I still use it regularly on my old 5150 PC.
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of R. D. Davis
-> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 11:29 PM
-> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> Subject: MS/PC-DOS replacements (was: "History" of computing)
->
->
->
-> Speaking of MS-DOS or PC-DOS, how many here recall using improved
-> MS-DOS replacements, overlays or "environments?" For example,
-> Wendin-DOS
-> and it's UNIX-like and VMS-like emulation, or such multi-tasking and
-> multi-user envorinments that ran on top of MS/PC-DOS such as VMiX?
->
-> I remember first using VMiX to attach terminals to PeeCees as well as
-> using this with a second monitor - I had both a Hercules color VGA
-> card as well as a Hercules monochrome graphics adapter in the system
-> and used both displays at one time. Sometimes VMiX would work and I
-> could run my BBS (using the QuickBBS software) while also doing other
-> things with the system. Alas, I never sent in the registration fee
-> for VMiX and hence never got the full technical details/documentation,
-> etc. that would have supposedly made it more useful. Did anyone here
-> ever register it and get that info.?
->
-> This reminds me... I've got to figure out how to write a program
-> to extract
-> all of the old messages from the QuickBBS database files and save them as
-> text files.
->
-> Getting back to Wendin-DOS, I understand that it's creator ended up
-> being sucked into Microsoft as an employee. Does anyone know how many
-> small companies that could have been good competetion got sucked up
-> that way into the black hole known as Microsoft?
->
-> --
-> Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans &
-> other animals:
-> All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're
-> above Nature &
-> rdd(a)rddavis.net 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma
-> to justify such
-> http://www.rddavis.net beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.
->
10:39 a.m.
New subject: MS/PC-DOS replacements (was: "History" of computing)
Yeah I thought about that AFTER I pressed "send"...
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Geoff Reed
-> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 5:27 PM
-> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> Subject: RE: MS/PC-DOS replacements (was: "History" of computing)
->
->
-> 4Dos is just a CCP replacement (replaces Command.com, not the
-> whole of DOS.
-> you still need to havea DOS core to run it on.)
->
-> At 06:51 AM 7/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
-> >There was DrDos and 4Dos (also known as Norton NDos) as well. 4Dos I
-> >remember well as I still use it regularly on my old 5150 PC.
-> >
-> >-> -----Original Message-----
-> >-> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> >-> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of R. D. Davis
-> >-> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 11:29 PM
-> >-> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> >-> Subject: MS/PC-DOS replacements (was: "History" of computing)
-> >->
-> >->
-> >->
-> >-> Speaking of MS-DOS or PC-DOS, how many here recall using improved
-> >-> MS-DOS replacements, overlays or "environments?" For example,
-> >-> Wendin-DOS
-> >-> and it's UNIX-like and VMS-like emulation, or such multi-tasking and
-> >-> multi-user envorinments that ran on top of MS/PC-DOS such as VMiX?
-> >->
-> >-> I remember first using VMiX to attach terminals to PeeCees as well as
-> >-> using this with a second monitor - I had both a Hercules color VGA
-> >-> card as well as a Hercules monochrome graphics adapter in the system
-> >-> and used both displays at one time. Sometimes VMiX would work and I
-> >-> could run my BBS (using the QuickBBS software) while also doing other
-> >-> things with the system. Alas, I never sent in the registration fee
-> >-> for VMiX and hence never got the full technical
-> details/documentation,
-> >-> etc. that would have supposedly made it more useful. Did anyone here
-> >-> ever register it and get that info.?
-> >->
-> >-> This reminds me... I've got to figure out how to write a program
-> >-> to extract
-> >-> all of the old messages from the QuickBBS database files and
-> save them as
-> >-> text files.
-> >->
-> >-> Getting back to Wendin-DOS, I understand that it's creator ended up
-> >-> being sucked into Microsoft as an employee. Does anyone
-> know how many
-> >-> small companies that could have been good competetion got sucked up
-> >-> that way into the black hole known as Microsoft?
-> >->
-> >-> --
-> >-> Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans &
-> >-> other animals:
-> >-> All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're
-> >-> above Nature &
-> >-> rdd(a)rddavis.net 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma
-> >-> to justify such
-> >-> http://www.rddavis.net beliefs and to justify much
-> human cruelty.
-> >->
->
4:24 a.m.
New subject: Visual 1050 (base) to give away
I have the base to a Visual 1050 to give away if anyone is interested. This
the computer only, no keyboard or monitor -which you'll need if you want to
use it. I don't know if it works but it's free. Let me know if you are
interested.
Ernest
ernestls(a)home.com
11:46 a.m.
New subject: "History" of computing (was: Great new addition to collection
Here's Lincoln Spector's article:
http://www.pcworld.com/features/article/0,aid,52503,00.asp
13 Jul
13 Jul
1:22 p.m.
New subject: "History" of computing (was: Great new addition to collection
Yes it was written by Lincoln and has pictures of Tim Patterson the
creator of QDOS now ms-dos
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 7:46 PM
Subject: "History" of computing (was: Great new addition to collection
was
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, John R. Keys Jr. wrote:
> Also picked up the August 2001 issue of PCWorld and they have a 4
page
article on the
history of computing with pictures.
Is that the one that has Lincoln Spector's bit about PC-DOS 1.0 that based partially on discussions on this list?
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
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