Thanks Aaron. The DEC display is quite a bit newer than the old Plato design. I had one of
the Plato
terminals at one time and am quite familiar with them. I also had a digivue standalone
display at
one time, but don't recall what I did with it over the course of the years. At that
time, I did have
a full manual for it, including schematics, but I'm sure that went with the display to
it's new home.
I need to open the DEC VRE01 to see what the design looks like. The newer design allowed
it to be
very compact...
--tom
On 8/13/20 3:53 PM, Aaron Woolfson wrote:
Here's a photo of one of the restored PLATO
terminals (which had the plasma display)
Does the power supply for the PLASMA look like the one in this photo of one of the
terminals with
the covers off?
?
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Aaron Woolfson <mailto:woolfson at telswitch.com>
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Hi Tom.
?
Thanks for your message.? Well, the Plasma panels use a pretty unique.? I'm
attaching the
precise waveforms that the Plasma Panel expects to see in order to achieve the
illumination of
the dot. And while this may not be exactly or precisely what you're looking for,
this will
explain much about the technology involved.? The fact that you can see any
illumination at all
is perhaps the most important part - beacuse the gas is probably there, and the
"actuation"
voltage might just not be high enough, or the sustainer voltage might have an issue.
?
The power supplies were manufactured by Electro Plasma and were typically separate
from the
actual unit itself.? I am going to see whether I can find the schematics for those
power
supplies, which discuss the characteristics .
?
Also, check to see whether the back of the plasma panel itself has an edge connector
that is
similar to the attached TYCO specified connector. That might give you some insights
into where
to go.?
?
When I gave all my equipment and test gear to the LCM up in Seattle, I am pretty sure
that they
also got a lot of the original manuals and notes that had been hand written.? But I
typically
had scans of most everything.? I will see what I can find....
?
----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: DEC VRE01 terminal documentation
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 16:38:39 -0400
From: Paul Koning <paulkoning at
comcast.net <mailto:paulkoning at
comcast.net>>
You may want to see if the PLATO terminal documentation is any help, look on
Bitsavers under
University of Illinois.? Those plasma display power supplies are hairy devices; the
panel is
actually a memory device and the power supply produces a high voltage AC waveform to
make that
work.? Those panels normally light up around the rim; the fact you see that briefly
but not
sustained gives some hope that adjusting may be all that is needed.
That's quite a display; the usual plasma panels were 8 inches square, 512 by 512
pixels.? I'm
guessing this is a 1k by 1k pixel display, which I have seen once or twice, at SAI in
San Diego
in some military displays.
I know a plasma terminal expert; I've forwarded your message to him.
paul
On Aug 13, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Tom Uban via cctalk
<cctalk at
classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org>>
wrote:
I have a DEC VRE01 terminal that I bought NIB years ago. For those who don't know
about this
model,
it has a flat plasma (orange/black) display of
about 17". It worked when I bought it, but now,
years
later, I tried powering it up and the light comes
on for a moment and goes out. I suspect a power
supply issue, but bitsavers does not seem to have this one.
Does anyone have schematic (or other) documentation for it?
--tnx
--tom