1 Aug
2007
1 Aug
'07
5:11 p.m.
That isn't the point, Pete. The point is: everyone knows the VCF is Sellam's
thing and it would be really lame for someone else to make an event and call it a VCF. It
would also just be dumb even if it weren't unethical: Sellam (and me and Hans and Pat)
have done around 20 VCFs so far and we learned a LOT from the experience, so whoever is
serious about making a new VCF would be wise to work with Sellam's organization, not
around or against it.
1 Aug
1 Aug
5:55 p.m.
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 20:11 -0400, Evan wrote:
That isn't the point, Pete.
The point is: everyone knows the VCF is Sellam's thing
and it would be really lame for someone else to make
an event and call it a VCF.
Indeed.
It would also just be dumb even if it weren't
unethical:
Sellam (and me and Hans and Pat) have done around 20 VCFs so
far and we learned a LOT from the experience, so whoever is
serious about making a new VCF would be wise to work with
Sellam's organization, not around or against it.
I have put on a large computer show, albeit not with the "vintage"
aspect playing the major role, several times. Once as the organizer of
a hobbyist show, and about a dozen times as a representative of a
displaying company in a professional show. It's lots of work. And, if
we ignore the whole trans-Atlantic issue, I'd be happy to put on another
one for a good cause. However, I have had dealings with Sellam, and I
have only found a couple of people in my entire life who are as
personally abusive. I would certainly NEVER get involved in something
as complex and long-lasting as a computer show with him, and I suspect
others know him even better than I. This might be a factor in nobody
else wanting to put on a UK show.
Peace,
Warren E. Wolfe
warren at databasics.us
6:35 p.m.
Warren wrote....
[...snip...] > However, I have had dealings with Sellam, and I
have only found a couple of people in my entire life
who are
Personal attacks are completely unacceptable. What were you thinking?
This is a list for discussion of classic computing and related information.
It is not a forum to talk about what you dislike about an individual on the
list.
Consider this a warning....
Jay
7:35 p.m.
And thusly were the wise words spake by Warren Wolfe
one for a good cause. However, I have had dealings with Sellam, and I
have only found a couple of people in my entire life who are as
personally abusive. I would certainly NEVER get involved in something
as complex and long-lasting as a computer show with him, and I suspect
others know him even better than I. This might be a factor in nobody
else wanting to put on a UK show.
What is your problem? Where do you even begin in saying he is
abusive?! I have known him since VCF East 1.0 (2001) and I have
never found him in any way abusive. He may seem at times to go
off on a rant about what someone says but there is always a good
reason behind it. He is *very* passionate about vintage
computers, so much that it is *all* he does. I really do not
get what some people here have against him...
I also do not want to belittle anybody else - everybody here is
doing their own part in contributing to the preservation of all
that is vintage computers. I just do not understand why some
people have to take pot shots whenever his name or what he
specifically does is mentioned.
*sigh*
Cheers,
Bryan
9:02 p.m.
>> I just do not understand why some people have
to take pot shots
whenever his name or what he specifically does is mentioned.
"Envy" is my guess. Many people here wish they had his career and
convictions. They don't, so they put him down for it.
From my very first day in this hobby -- before I ever
even heard of
classiccmp.org -- Sellam was the first person I encountered and he
was
friendly to me from the start. That was about five solid years ago and
nothing has changed except for the better.
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