Well I for one found it amusing that HP was trying to get away from the "PC" moniker calling them "access devices for the Internet" (which can also be palmtops etc). You know a really bright chap in corporate would say: "Well we make lots of different kinds of equipment, and we gave all the analog stuff away to the Agilent so we just have the digital stuff. I know, we'll call the combined company the digital equipment company, gee that has a nice ring to it." Of course Microsoft loses big because their two biggest licensees for Wince are consolidating into one licensee. --Chuck