At 06:51 AM 1/11/98 -0600, you wrote: Here are my guesses... Probably the STM Systems BABY! 1, ca. 08/1976 MCM Computers System 700, Model 782 APL, ca. 12/1977 Xerox whatevertheycalledit? --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/