11 Apr
2005
11 Apr
'05
11:42 p.m.
Subject: Re: Navtel 9460 Protocol Analyzer info?
From: "Jay West" <jwest at classiccmp.org>
Someday I'll pick up a "datascope" (aka
serial protocol analyzer) cheap. I
did a lot of serial communications programming in a prior life, and
absolutely lived with a datascope. Not sure of the brand, but I remember is
was blue. No keyboard in the real sense, but a data entry pad on the front.
It was the most incredibly useful thing... you could program it to watch for
a particular sequence of ascii characters, then start capturing data. One
button would flip the display between ascii/ebcdic, hex, binary.. and it had
a dual display mode where it showed transmit on top of the line and receive
on the bottom of the line. It was a godsend. It had a breakout box built
into it, could buffer to floppy, etc. It could also do sync & async.
I happen to have a Atlantic Research Inc, serial datascope. It contains
several boards [std bus z80, rom/ram card, CRT5027 based crt controller Card]
however no manual. Someday I'll track down at least a schematic and fix
the CRT. The boards say T-bar on them so the instument may even be from
another company with the ACI label. It would be fun to get it operational.
Allison
12 Apr
12 Apr
8:42 a.m.
At 11:42 PM 4/11/05 -0400, Allison wrote:
for
Steve Robertson has a working Atlantic Research datascope. He picked it
up at the Orlando Hamfest a couple of years ago and I THINK he got the
manual for it also. You might check with him.
Joe
Subject: Re:
Navtel 9460 Protocol Analyzer info?
From: "Jay West" <jwest at classiccmp.org>
>Someday I'll pick up a "datascope" (aka serial protocol analyzer) cheap.
I
>did a lot of serial communications programming in a prior life, and
>absolutely lived with a datascope. Not sure of the brand, but I remember is
>was blue. No keyboard in the real sense, but a data entry pad on the front.
>It was the most incredibly useful thing... you could program it to watch >a particular sequence of ascii characters, then
start capturing data. One
>button would flip the display between ascii/ebcdic, hex, binary.. and it
had
a dual display
mode where it showed transmit on top of the line and receive
on the bottom of the line. It was a godsend. It had a breakout box built
into it, could buffer to floppy, etc. It could also do sync & async.
I happen to have a Atlantic Research Inc, serial datascope. It contains
several boards [std bus z80, rom/ram card, CRT5027 based crt controller Card]
however no manual. Someday I'll track down at least a schematic and fix
the CRT. The boards say T-bar on them so the instument may even be from
another company with the ACI label. It would be fun to get it operational.
Allison
2:16 p.m.
I happen to
have a Atlantic Research Inc, serial datascope. It contains
several boards [std bus z80, rom/ram card, CRT5027 based crt controller Card]
however no manual. Someday I'll track down at least a schematic and fix
the CRT. The boards say T-bar on them so the instument may even be from
another company with the ACI label. It would be fun to get it operational.
Steve Robertson has a working Atlantic Research datascope. He picked it
up at the Orlando Hamfest a couple of years ago and I THINK he got the
manual for it also. You might check with him.
Joe 
6:03 p.m.
I happen to have a Atlantic Research Inc, serial
datascope. It contains
several boards [std bus z80, rom/ram card, CRT5027 based crt controller Card]
however no manual. Someday I'll track down at least a schematic and fix
I am quite sure you're capable of tracing out the schematic of something
like that. It sounds like all the chips, and the bus pinouts are known,
which will let you tie down and name a lot of signals.
I've found that for things like this it takes less time (and is less
stressful) to trace out the schematic than either to try and find one or
do battle with the companys 'customer service' who rarely will supply
such things.
the CRT. The boards say T-bar on them so the instument
may even be from
another company with the ACI label. It would be fun to get it operational.
This reminded me of another device I have. It calles itself an
'InterView'. I forget who made it, maybe Trend. It's clearly some kind of
protocol analyser. Alas it was dropped by an idiot long before I got it.
The result is that the card cage is distorted (but the PCBs are all
intact), the CRT has left its tension band (which scares the heck out of
me!), and the cartridge tape drive (DC100-size tapes) is in many bits.
Another project for a rainy day...
And then there's the TDMS5. TDMS == Telegraph Distortion Measuring Set.
This is sort-of the same kind of instrument for 5-bit teletupe lines.
It'll send a given character repeatedly, send the Quick Brown Fox
message, display the incoming bit transitions on a circular-timebase CRT,
test polar relays for transition time and bounce, and so on. This thing
is stuffed with valves. Fortunately I do have the service manual with
schematics and layouts for that one.
-tony
13 Apr
13 Apr
3:09 p.m.
Tony Duell wrote:
This reminded me of another device I have. It calles
itself an
'InterView'. I forget who made it, maybe Trend. It's clearly
some kind of protocol analyser. Alas it was dropped by an
idiot long before I got it. The result is that the card cage
is distorted (but the PCBs are all intact), the CRT has left
its tension band (which scares the heck out of me!), and the
cartridge tape drive (DC100-size tapes) is in many bits.
Another project for a rainy day...
The Interview 7000 manuals on the shelf say Atlantic Research
Coporation on the back. The Interview 8000 manual says Telenex
on the spine (the back says Telenex. AR Test Systems - I assume
a new division was bornized somewhere along the line ...).
I don't recall whether it is a 7000 or 8000 (or both!) I have
in storage, but neither had been dropped when last I looked.
I don't think I ever used them in anger - mostly I used
the HP 4xxx protocol analysers (and now I have one or more
of those in storage too - I don't recall if they are TU58
variants or 3.5" drive variants ...)
Antonio
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Antonio Carlini arcarlini at iee.org
7:32 p.m.
The Interview 7000 manuals on the shelf say Atlantic
Research
Coporation on the back. The Interview 8000 manual says Telenex
on the spine (the back says Telenex. AR Test Systems - I assume
a new division was bornized somewhere along the line ...).
I can't remmeber what I have (the number '4000' seems to be floating
through my memory, but...) and I certainly don't feel like finding it at
the moment.
Do your manauls contain any useful repair information, like schematics?
-tony
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