On Tue, 12 May 1998, Grant Zozman wrote:
Thanks for all the help so far :-)
To address the questions people have asked:
I have a program called
FORMAT06.COM supplied on the original CP/M Autoload
disks for the Kaypro. It seems to do a high level format (similar to DOS's
FORMAT command). However when I run it, I get "Verify errors", so it does
not seem capable of overcoming the problems the drive has.
Have you means (PC w/ 22DISK) of putting a file on Kaypro format disk?
If so, I'll send a different Kaypro HD format program to you by e-mail.
I do have PUTSYS and PUTOVL, and have executed them.
Interestingly enough,
they don't report any errors. However, as Don Maslin noted, these should
be run after the drive is formatted, so at this point I don't think these
utilities can solve my problem. In any case, I would suspect that if this
was the only problem, I would still be able to pull up a directory of the
hard drive (I can't); I just wouldn't be able to boot from it.
Some have mentioned that the Tandon drive I have is not original, and that
I should look for a Seagate (ST225 has been recommended), Shugart, or
Microscience drive. Would I be able to use any 10MB MFM drive in place of
the Tandon TM502? I am wondering specifically about physical size,
Yes, you can use abother 10mb drive PROVIDING that it has 4 heads. The
format program is rather inflexible about that. If only two heads, you
will get only 5mb out of it, or if more than 4 heads and, say, 163
cylinders, you also will not get 10mb.
location of mounting screws, and the connectors used.
If someone has a
Those should be standard.
good working drive (or knows where one can be
sourced), please let me know.
I am willing to pay a fair price for one.
I can format and send you a 20mb NEC D5126 drive (ST-225 clone). E-mail
me if you are interested.
Bill and Allison, you mentioned that I might attempt a
low level format.
Barring physical damage on the disk, this sounds like the most likely
cause of my problems; maybe the heads got bumped slightly out of alignment
in shipping, and therefore cannot find the servo tracks any longer. I
The drive has no servo tracks. The stepper motor determines track location.
would like to try a low level format, but am not sure
what the utility
would be called. I have searched all the CP/M disks I have, and have
turned up no programs which would indicate that they do a low level format.
The CP/M format combines both low level and high level in a single operation.
Would this utility have been supplied with CP/M? None
of the books I have
on CP/M mention anything about low level formatting (although most of them
are too old to cover hard drives!). Any ideas on where I can find
this utility would be welcome! If someone has a copy on a floppy, I would
be more than willing to pay a fair price for your efforts to get a copy to me.
- don
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