28 Sep
2012
28 Sep
'12
9:09 p.m.
speaking of Apple clones...did any make it to the US or Canada?
29 Sep
29 Sep
10:39 a.m.
On 9/28/2012 10:09 PM, Chris Tofu wrote:
speaking of Apple clones...did any make it to the US
or Canada?
Apple's lawyers jumped on anything with "similar" ROMs, nevertheless:
Basis
Franklin Ace?
Laser 128? (marketed by Central Point)
Apple emulators on ISA cards:
Trakstar (eventually marketed by RS)
Dimension had an Apple board in their machine
Quadram Quadlink (more than 70% DOA, including "tested" replacements, at
least one of which had connector improperly installed, so that it could
NOT have been tested)
11:50 a.m.
On 09/29/2012 01:39 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
On 9/28/2012 10:09 PM, Chris Tofu wrote:
I have one of thpose apple in an IAS box adaptor boards. Mine has two
6502s on it.
I should power up my ISA box and try it some day. Need a roundtuit first.
Allison
speaking of Apple clones...did any make it to the
US or Canada?
Apple's lawyers jumped on anything with "similar" ROMs,
nevertheless:
Basis
Franklin Ace?
Laser 128? (marketed by Central Point)
Apple emulators on ISA cards:
Trakstar (eventually marketed by RS) Dimension had an Apple board in their machine
Quadram Quadlink (more than 70% DOA, including "tested" replacements, at
least one of which had connector improperly installed, so that it could
NOT have been tested)
1 Oct
1 Oct
2:15 p.m.
From: Chris Pye <pye at mactec.com.au>\
On 29/09/2012, at 2:09 PM, Chris Tofu wrote:
speaking of Apple clones...did any make it to the US or Canada?
I've got one in Australia..? They were quite common here, along with many other
clones.
Chris
C: You say _were_ quite common. Does that mean they still are?
????? Did they use actual duplicate Apple ][ roms? That's the story I heard (and in a
landmark Australian court case the judge/s ruled that since it wasn't a literary work,
there was no copyright infringement. Oh how I wish our courts were so lax/goofy!).
3:41 p.m.
On 02/10/2012, at 7:15 AM, Chris Tofu wrote:
C: You say _were_ quite common. Does that mean they still are?
Did they use actual duplicate Apple ][ roms? That's the story I heard (and in a
landmark Australian court case the judge/s ruled that since it wasn't a literary work,
there was no copyright infringement. Oh how I wish our courts were so lax/goofy!).
Not particularly common here any more, 15 to 20 years ago yes. They seemed to be
discarded well before most genuine Apple II's, I think perhaps because most of the
clones were privately owned, and the real Apples were mainly in schools where they stayed
in service for a long time, also the clones were cheap to start with so didn't have
much (if any) resale value.
IIRC the Wombat firmware code was basically an exact copy, just on three larger ROMs
instead of six.
You can probably find the full court transcripts if you search on Apple computer v
Computer Edge.
2:19 p.m.
ok maybe I shouldn't have stated that it had actual clone Apple roms. Truth is I only
read a snippet on the issue in an old BYTE. Perhaps they were only similar. Perhaps they
were too close for comfort. What was reported was the outcome of the case. It didn't
state what was the basis for the case, whether they accused them of swiping portions or
whatever.
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