Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 22:41:04 -0400
From: "Jason McBrien" <jbmcb1 at gmail.com>
On 8/7/06, Don <THX1138 at dakotacom.net> wrote:
>
> OK, the 840AV has one of those mini-centronics-style
> connectors on the rear for the network transceiver.
>
> I have some "Asante FriendlyNet Thin Adapter"s that will
> mate with this and work -- for a 10Base2 network!
>
> The Asante box has an RJ45 on the rear. The cable that
> mates to the network connector on the 840AV has that
> funky mini-centronics on one end and an RJ45 *plug*
> on the other.
>
> This choice of connectors -- and the "Thin Adapter"
> moniker -- suggests that I could plug the RJ45 *plug*
> end of this cable into a hub directly?
>
> Is this true? Or, just wishful thinking (and an unfortunate
> choice in connectors on Asantes part)?
Nope, I'm 99% sure the RJ45 cable is not a regular
CAT4/CAT5 style ethernet
connector, since I have some of the same Asante adapter dongles with RJ45
jacks on the end of them (IE the AUI->RJ45 connector fits into a box, that
has another RJ45 jack on it that's the ethernet interface.)
You must have an older Asante transceiver. The more recent ones have
the cable integrated into the transceiver box, so that there is no
seperate dongle.
For those having trouble following, Apple used an odd connector (the
mini-centronics referred to above) for their AUI port and called it
an AAUI port. It makes a certain amount of sense as the AAUI is a
more compact connector which works nicely for laptops and saves space
on the computer backplane. Also, Apple is (was) already using DB15
for their video port.
Various companies made transceivers for the AAUI port, including
Asante. Asante's older transceivers have an AAUI to RJ45 plug
dongle. The RJ45 end of the dongle plugs into the transceiver box
which may be for thicknet, thinnet or UTP (they also made some combo
boxes with UTP and thinnet in the same box).
Anyway, you'll (Don will) want to find an actual UTP transceiver.
They're cheap, but not as thick on the ground as they once were.
Apple gave up on the AAUI with the first PCI Macs (well, they started
including UTP built-in next to the AAUI, but who used the AAUI after
that?) so the only folks still using the AAUI transceivers are
running NuBus machines, and there aren't that many of us left.
If you have a local Goodwill Computer Works store, you may find an
assortment of AAUI transceivers in a bin for $3 - $5 unless they've
lost their minds for Ebay pricing.
<digression> I saw several HP 600N ethernet cards (successor to the
MIO cards for LaserJet printers) at the San Antonio Computer Works
store priced over $50. They say they're pricing them using Ebay
pricing. However, when I bought one on Ebay, I found that they
generally ended for about $20 (which was still more than I was
willing to pay). There were some sellers using fixed price sales at
~$50, but there's no saying anyone ever bought from them. For some
of their pricing, Goodwill has recently lost their institutional
mind. </digression>
Jeff Walther