In a message dated 8/10/99 3:30:46 PM EST, ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk writes: << We've had many discussions here about whether it is better to restore a machine (and thus instal unoriginal parts) or whether it is better to keep everything original and live with it not working. For me, there is no contest here - I like to use my old machines, and thus I try to get them working. Fixing them is half the fun anyway :-). >> I agree! I like stuff I can use. The only non-working stuff I keep (besides packaging material ;>) is that which has spare parts for my working machines, or machines I hope to acquire in the future. << Ooops... I thought almost everyone here was short of space... >> Well, some of us collect the "small" stuff & we can get a lot of it on a five foot shelf ;>) I'm also blessed with a wife who understands my hobby (if I'm tinkering with this crap she knows where I am . . .) << People here have made some good points as to why I should keep the original box, so for the moment at least, it stays. >> Right on! The dumpster loses again! Regards, Glen Goodwin 0/0