At 02:25 PM 3/11/98 -0500, you wrote: CD's too. I saw a guy pull a stack of 15-20 CD's out of his pocket, no case or anything, and start shuffling through them like a deck of cards. Picked one out, put it on the seat beside him, took the CD out of his player, and put it and the rest back in his pocket. I guess they still worked (though his player had a (I think) 10 second buffer, so it has plenty of time to do retries.) 'course he didn't look like the sort of bloke who listened to anything older than a week. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/