At 02:23 PM 7/29/98 +0000, you wrote: Well, Quakes can be interesting, but really what they mean is your house/office/whatever is going to be better built than elsewhere, and you grow up with an instinctive eye for not putting breakables in precarious places. Besides, I'd rather live somewhere that had occassional earthquakes rather than a regular tornado, hurricane, or blizzard season... 8^) A lot of people suggested stronger shelves, which would be a good idea except that we're talking 7 sets of shelves (plus a whole lot of computers that I keep promising my girlfriend will get put in there) so $50/set is a lot of dough. Does anyone have any experience with overloading the plastic shelves? We have some running around here, but I don't know how strong they are. As for starting what will end up on the floor on the floor, that would be cool too, but I only have so much floor space (The house across the street just went on the market -- 2700 sq ft, 4 bedrooms, yard: $695K, and no, I don't live in a rich neighborhood.) and everybody pisses and moans as it is about the computers strewn throughout the house already. 8^) A lot of people suggested chicken wire or bungees to hold things on the shelves, which prompted me to think of a low-cost solution my GF's sister-in-law came up with: twine. Lace twine around/through the vertical supports. Surplus phone wire or such would work too, I think. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/