1 Jul
1997
1 Jul
'97
11:58 a.m.
In message <3.0.1.32.19970701060900.00f809f0(a)mail.wizards.net>
classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu writes:
>> I've seen a couple of posts in here
that declare, in very firm terms
>> indeed, that machines like the MicroVAX and PDP's are not "home"
computers.
>
> My PDP is a home computer. All it takes up is a table (I don't have a
> rack yet. It's coming...) Besides, my XT is bigger than the PDP at the
> moment (condidering keyboard, monitor, printer, and disks)
At one time I had a PDP8/e and a PDP11/44 _on my desk_. They were thus desktop
computers :-). The 11/44 is now elsewhere, since I now have the 8/e's
peripherals on my desk....
1 Jul
1 Jul
4:59 p.m.
At 11:58 PM 7/1/97 GMT, you wrote:
Talking of plotters...
Does anybody know anything about the Tektronix 4662? I have one, and the
service manual, but no programming manual. I think I can fix the electronic
side (and the mechanics if it needs it), but I have no idea on how to talk to
the thing. It has both RS232 and GPIB ports. Does anyone have a command
reference or whatever?
I have one, and (I believe) the programmers reference and no service
manual. (and Tek is 1.5 miles up the road B^} )Sounds like there may be
potential here, eh? Looking for anything in particular?
-jim
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6:36 p.m.
Tony Duell wrote:
> The whole definition argument seems pretty
pointless, Enrico. That's what
> I was trying to say in the first place. If you want to set your own
> definitions of what constitutes a 'home computer,' that's fine.
But this is NOT a home computers list. It's an ALL
computers list. That is made
100% clear in the FAQ. Define what you like, talk about what you like (provided
it computes and is at least 10 years old), and the rest of us will do the same
> us will happily(?) continue to use whatever strikes our fancy for computing
> hardware in the home (a much better definition, I think).
>
> As has been pointed out, this group is for discussion of 'classic'
> computers. Bill Whitson's definition of 'classic,' in this case, refers
to
> ANY machine that is ten years or more old. Period.
EXACTLY. I think that before flaming and attacking someone for what he
never said I think it would be wiser to read slowly and thoughtfully
what it arrives on your screen:
- I did not start this war of words on home computers (someone else did)
- I am not against the talking or the collectin of "big" computers
- I don't think that this mailing list is just about home-computers
(whatever they might be)
- I wish you stop being so superficial and possessive and get on with
collecting and discussing about collecting and using old historical
computers
- I wish you stop beign so self-centered and concentrate in finding good
sides in people and situations
I think this list is a wonderful occasion for us all to learn and share
our experience on something whcih changed the way we all act and think
Thank you
enrico
6:52 p.m.
On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, e.tedeschi wrote:
- I wish you stop being so superficial and possessive
and get on with
collecting and discussing about collecting and using old historical
computers
- I wish you stop beign so self-centered and concentrate in finding good
sides in people and situations
I would hope that, for the good of the dicussion, the addressee of this
message will ignore these inflammatory remarks or at least address them in
private e-mail. Thanks.
Sam
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