At 04:25 PM 11/23/2004, Gary Fisher wrote: As I pointed out in my first message, the credit-card-stealing seller hadn't even received payment from the eBay buyers in three of the four cases I found. So he's playing a game - hoping someone will pay faster than the time he needs to grab the money and run and before the credit card owner figures it out. I'm looking forward to filing a complaint with local law enforcement, which will allow them to kick out a few subpoenas to request records that eBay / eGold / Yahoo / BestBuy / Staples won't release. It would give IP addresses, maybe other account info, maybe a trail to where the money went. I'm hoping the police will share the details with me, so I can assist in the investigation. No idea. This card was generally used only for business, about half-and-half in-person and online. - John