< V5, V6 and V6 are available from the same site as the Supnik < emulators, and I don't believe the licenses accompanying them < are as strict... and yes, the license for them is only $100. The 100$ license is for the sources. Binaries are pretty much free if it runs on what you have. It turns out that can be more of a restriction than any license. The question is however is there something else? I know fuzzball is around but I don't know if that is a option for most -11 users. For me it's no fun running an emulator when real iron is at hand. Though I'm able to run most OSs I'm always looking at "Yet other choices". Allison