28 Dec
2000
28 Dec
'00
6:53 a.m.
The subject (I think) is on topic, the hardware to which I'm refering is
a little too new for us, but I'm gonna ask anyway.
I have a Pentium I wintel box which I've had for nearly five years.
It's 1.9 GB HD has been slowly developing bearing whine for the last
several months. It is getting noticibly louder now and I'm sure this
faithful old HD is nearing the end of it's earthly sojourn.
My fantasy is that I can buy another IDE drive (of somewhat larger
capacity) and just somehow copy the whole thing on the original down to
the new one, without having to go thru the backup/restore/re-auth all the
programs I've got on it. I have 8mm streaming tape backups of the system,
but that's a pain.
I'm living in southern India so 'just pop in to Fry's and get a package
like DriveCopy III' is not an option. :)
Any advice/how-to/magic formulae?
Cheers and Happy NuYeer
John
28 Dec
28 Dec
7:29 a.m.
John Lawson wrote:
My fantasy is that I can buy another IDE drive (of
somewhat larger
capacity) and just somehow copy the whole thing on the original down to
the new one, (snip)
John
What's the OS? If it's Win95 then www.computercraft.com has a good walk through
on
"Transferring A WINDOWS 95 System From One Hard Drive To Another"
http://www.computercraft.com/docs/doitrightwin95hd.html
Kirk Scott
ks(a)coastalnet.com
7:46 a.m.
At 07:53 AM 12/28/00 -0500, you wrote:
The subject (I think) is on topic, the hardware to
which I'm refering is
a little too new for us, but I'm gonna ask anyway.
My fantasy is that I can buy another IDE drive (of somewhat larger
capacity) and just somehow copy the whole thing on the original down to
the new one, without having to go thru the backup/restore/re-auth all the
programs I've got on it.
You can easily purchase Norton Ghost online. Try www.symantec.com.
It's actually a DOS-based program, although it requires Windows to
create the DOS boot disks. (Go figure.)
The Windows program lets you select which network card drivers
will be placed on the boot floppy. This allows it to clone
drives in a master-slave mode between two computers. Yes,
one license of Ghost lets you run it on two when you're
cloning this way.
I think it's using a DOS clone of some kind on the boot floppies
it makes, and the network mode isn't required, so you can copy
between two drives in a system.
Copying a disk image from one drive to another is one thing,
doing a smart copy (considering the actual filesystem and files)
is another. I think you want the latter. (Linux 'dd' will
easily do the former.)
I think it's on-topic, too - after all, it'll happily copy
older FAT partitions as well as today's latest.
- John
8:16 a.m.
The subject (I think) is on topic, the hardware to which I'm refering is
a little too new for us, but I'm gonna ask anyway.
I have a Pentium I wintel box which I've had for nearly five years.
It's 1.9 GB HD has been slowly developing bearing whine for the last
several months. It is getting noticibly louder now and I'm sure this
faithful old HD is nearing the end of it's earthly sojourn.
My fantasy is that I can buy another IDE drive (of somewhat larger
capacity) and just somehow copy the whole thing on the original down to
the new one, without having to go thru the backup/restore/re-auth all the
programs I've got on it. I have 8mm streaming tape backups of the system,
but that's a pain.
I'm living in southern India so 'just pop in to Fry's and get a package
like DriveCopy III' is not an option. :)
Any advice/how-to/magic formulae?
Cheers and Happy NuYeer
John
Norton Ghost and DriveCopy are both sold and delivered electronically
over the internet.
I know, because I bought Partition Magic's upgrade to v5 electronically.
--Bill
--
bpechter(a)monmouth.com | FreeBSD since 1.0.2, Linux since 0.99.10
| Unix Sys Admin since Sys V/BSD 4.2
| Windows System Administration: "Magical Misery Tour"
8:38 a.m.
If your drive is formatted for fat/fat32 you should use EzDrive from the
drive's maker. WD and Seagate ship this product. It will dup the drive
and grow the partitions at the same time.
If it is EXT2, HPFS, NTFS, or some non-ms filesystem, you can use Ezdrive,
Ghost, or DriveImage to move the data then some other tool like partition
magic to grow the partition. For all that, you could use DD in linux/unix
to move the data.
Regards,
Jeff
--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Jeffrey S. Worley
President
Complete Computer Services, Inc.
30 Greenwood Rd.
Asheville, NC 28803
828-277-5959
Visit our website at HTTP://www.Real-Techs.com
THETechnoid(a)home.com
-----------------------------------------------------------
8:47 a.m.
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, John Lawson wrote:
My fantasy is that I can buy another IDE drive (of
somewhat larger
capacity) and just somehow copy the whole thing on the original down to
the new one, without having to go thru the backup/restore/re-auth all the
programs I've got on it. I have 8mm streaming tape backups of the system,
but that's a pain.
Hmmm, what's so dificult about just using "cp -Rp" or dump/restore?
Unless you're not using UNIX... UNIX makes life so much easier; you
didn't mention what OS you're using, but it doesn't sound like UNIX.
Any advice/how-to/magic formulae?
Convert all of your documents, data, spreadsheets, etc. to ASCII, find
something that will write all of this to a tar format on a tape that
can be read by FreeBSD, Linux, Solaris, or whatever, then dump all of
this data three times, just to be on the safe side (since you're
possibly using a Microsoft product, it pays to be extra careful), and
then install some version of UNIX that can read the tape. ;-)
Good luck!
--
Copyright (C) 2000 R. D. Davis "The best way to gain a true understanding of
All Rights Reserved Wile E. Coyote on the Roadrunner cartoons is to
rdd(a)perqlogic.com 410-744-4900 fly, head-first, off a horse into something like
http://www.perqlogic.com/rdd a fence or a tree; trust me, this works." --RDD
5:43 p.m.
My fantasy is that I can buy another IDE drive (of
somewhat larger
capacity) and just somehow copy the whole thing on the original down to
the new one, without having to go thru the backup/restore/re-auth all the
programs I've got on it. I have 8mm streaming tape backups of the system,
When I bought a new motherboard last year it came with a Norton CD called
Ghost, which I have heard very good things about and does just what you
want. I don't know how large the program is, or how fussy it might be to
snag off the CD and email, but suspect a "way" is possible. Most likely it
is best if this is done off the list via direct email otherwise you might
get 7 copies emailed to you.
8:48 p.m.
Here are some (OT) disturbing developments in the (OT) field of IDE
cloning.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/15620.html
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Mike Ford wrote:
--
My fantasy is
that I can buy another IDE drive (of somewhat larger
capacity) and just somehow copy the whole thing on the original down to
the new one, without having to go thru the backup/restore/re-auth all the
programs I've got on it. I have 8mm streaming tape backups of the system,
When I bought a new motherboard last year it came with a Norton CD called
Ghost, which I have heard very good things about and does just what you
want. I don't know how large the program is, or how fussy it might be to
snag off the CD and email, but suspect a "way" is possible. Most likely it
is best if this is done off the list via direct email otherwise you might
get 7 copies emailed to you.
5:52 p.m.
Hi John,
At one point in time Seagate provided a utility with the retail
packaged drives that would copy EVERYTHING from your old drive to
the new... It is possible Western Digital has a similiar utility
bundled, or at least available from their website...
clint
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, John Lawson wrote:
The subject (I think) is on topic, the hardware to which I'm refering is
a little too new for us, but I'm gonna ask anyway.
I have a Pentium I wintel box which I've had for nearly five years.
It's 1.9 GB HD has been slowly developing bearing whine for the last
several months. It is getting noticibly louder now and I'm sure this
faithful old HD is nearing the end of it's earthly sojourn.
My fantasy is that I can buy another IDE drive (of somewhat larger
capacity) and just somehow copy the whole thing on the original down to
the new one, without having to go thru the backup/restore/re-auth all the
programs I've got on it. I have 8mm streaming tape backups of the system,
but that's a pain.
I'm living in southern India so 'just pop in to Fry's and get a package
like DriveCopy III' is not an option. :)
Any advice/how-to/magic formulae?
Cheers and Happy NuYeer
John
11:50 p.m.
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, John Lawson wrote:
My fantasy is that I can buy another IDE drive (of
somewhat larger
capacity) and just somehow copy the whole thing on the original down to
the new one, without having to go thru the backup/restore/re-auth all the
programs I've got on it. I have 8mm streaming tape backups of the system,
but that's a pain.
Any advice/how-to/magic formulae?
On an Amiga, I'd just jumper the new IDE drive as slave, partition and
format it, and then do a "Copy CLONE ALL Old_Drive: New_Drive:". I've done
the same thing on a NetBSD machine, though I've forgotten the exact syntax
for "cp". Is this solution sufficiently simple?
Otherwise, one might try a "dd".
29 Dec
29 Dec
4:16 p.m.
The subject (I think) is on topic, the hardware to which I'm
refering is
a little too new for us, but I'm gonna ask anyway.
I have a Pentium I wintel box which I've had for nearly five years.
It's 1.9 GB HD has been slowly developing bearing whine for the last
several months. It is getting noticibly louder now and I'm sure this
faithful old HD is nearing the end of it's earthly sojourn.
My fantasy is that I can buy another IDE drive (of somewhat larger
capacity) and just somehow copy the whole thing on the original down
to the new one, without having to go thru the backup/restore/re-auth
all the programs I've got on it. I have 8mm streaming tape backups of
the system, but that's a pain.
I'm living in southern India so 'just pop in to Fry's and get a
package
like DriveCopy III' is not an option. :)
Any advice/how-to/magic formulae?
Cheers and Happy NuYeer
John
I just bought a 10 G Samsung and made an easy transfer.
Samsung, and I imagine most major manufacturers do the same,
provided me with a link to an installation program from On-Track.
Upon supplying the Samsung ser # number I was able to
download it. It even provided an overlay fix for my old Bios to
get around its 2 G limit rather than having to install a new Bios.
There's also a wealth of material at
http://www.ping.be/bios/
ciao larry
Reply to:
lgwalker(a)look.ca
8783
days inactive
8784
days old
10 comments
11 participants
participants (11)
-
jfoust＠threedee.com -
jpl15＠panix.com -
ks＠coastalnet.com -
lgwalker＠look.ca -
mikeford＠socal.rr.com -
optimus＠canit.se -
pechter＠pechter.dyndns.org -
rdd＠smart.net -
THETechnoid＠home.com -
thompson＠mail.athenet.net -
vaxman＠qwest.net