You're probably right, but one must keep in mind that you can't have it both ways. If the collection is for "collectors" (who couldn't give a rat's *** whether they work or not) then the eBay route is your just and proper domain. I don't "collect" per se, but do like to run my old '70's and '80's stuff and keep some non-functional items around, not because of their value but because they have parts I might need to repair the old boxes I use from time to time, for tasks like programming 2708's, etc. My own inclination is to view computers that don't run as projects or as parts-supply, and computers without reusable parts as dumpster-bound. I'd never want a machine that requires power I can't supply. I'd never want a machine that I can't see how to fix, either. Once it's relegated to the parts bins, it gets dismantled and put in the parts stock, right down to the screws and washers, and the sheet metal goes to the scrapper or to the dumpster. My view of old, and particularly old LARGE, hardware sitting in the yard is just lie my view of old cars rusting in the yard. I know not everybody agrees, but that's my take. Quite frankly, I have plenty enough trouble keeping the potentially useable/runable hardware accomodated without keeping lots of SUN/HP/DEC/etc hardware, any amount of which I've passed up in the past, accumulating in the yard. My own goal is simply to get the stuff I've held onto for twenty or more years going, and to reduce the excess to useable replacement parts or ditch them. Now, I've no problem with giving extra stuff away, particularly to someone who might acutally use the stuff, and have even given away stuff for which I paid good money in the not too distant past, just to lighten the load. Nevertheless, if I can't see a way to make it into a running machine or parts for one, it's outta here. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Hellige" <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Ebay horror ... other