7:03 p.m.
The Balkanized nature of programming is interesting.
I make a comment about C and get a flurry of responses, but ask a
question about a programming language that is also very common for
machine control and get no response at all. Not even a recognition of
its existence.
Siemens STL ist a programming language for machine controllers. It is
oriented towards Boolean operations and extended for integer and real
data types. Symbolic addressing is almost completely absent.
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 9:19 PM, Charles Dickman <chd at chdickman.com> wrote:
Does anyone here even know what Siemens STL is?
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 9:00 PM, Charles Dickman <chd at chdickman.com> wrote:
>
7:32 p.m.
On 04/11/2017 07:03 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote:
The Balkanized nature of programming is interesting.
I make a comment about C and get a flurry of responses, but ask a
question about a programming language that is also very common for
machine control and get no response at all. Not even a recognition
of its existence.
I don't think that you're being quite fair. There are boatloads of
specialized application programming languages--I rarely pay attention to
any of them, figuring that after your first dozen or so, it's easy
enough to add another one.
Heck, I may even have some STL stashed away in my collection of Siemens
PG-685 floppies. I never was interested in looking.
--Chuck
8:57 p.m.
I worked with STL some but am much more familiar with structured text as
used by Rockwell/Allen-Bradley. However, my first exposure to PLCs after
getting out of the Navy back in 1991 was the Mitsubishi A series with a GPP
for a programmer. I found that one interesting because you could program in
ladder mode or switch to the other mode (which I can't remember the name
of) that looked exactly like assembly. The two modes were interchangeable
as far as I could tell.
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 04/11/2017 07:03 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk
wrote:
The Balkanized nature of programming is
interesting.
I make a comment about C and get a flurry of responses, but ask a
question about a programming language that is also very common for
machine control and get no response at all. Not even a recognition
of its existence.
I don't think that you're being quite fair. There are boatloads of
specialized application programming languages--I rarely pay attention to
any of them, figuring that after your first dozen or so, it's easy
enough to add another one.
Heck, I may even have some STL stashed away in my collection of Siemens
PG-685 floppies. I never was interested in looking.
--Chuck
12 Apr
12 Apr
5:26 a.m.
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I don't think that you're being quite fair.
There are boatloads of
specialized application programming languages--I rarely pay attention to
any of them, figuring that after your first dozen or so, it's easy
enough to add another one.
True, I went a bit overboard.
The puzzling (and frustrating) thing about these industrial control
languages is how primitive they are. There is lots of talk about IIoT
and Industry 4.0, but at the bottom much of it is essentially handed
written machine code.
8:45 a.m.
Herd of it
Siemens has destroyed so many good products by buying them out blah....
On Apr 11, 2017 9:03 PM, "Charles Dickman via cctalk" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
wrote:
The Balkanized nature of programming is interesting.
I make a comment about C and get a flurry of responses, but ask a
question about a programming language that is also very common for
machine control and get no response at all. Not even a recognition of
its existence.
Siemens STL ist a programming language for machine controllers. It is
oriented towards Boolean operations and extended for integer and real
data types. Symbolic addressing is almost completely absent.
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 9:19 PM, Charles Dickman <chd at chdickman.com>
wrote:
Does anyone here even know what Siemens STL is?
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 9:00 PM, Charles Dickman <chd at chdickman.com>
wrote:
>
10:48 a.m.
On 04/11/2017 07:03 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote:
The Balkanized nature of programming is interesting.
I make a comment about C and get a flurry of responses, but ask a
question about a programming language that is also very common for
machine control and get no response at all. Not even a recognition
of its existence.
Siemens STL ist a programming language for machine controllers. It
is oriented towards Boolean operations and extended for integer and
real data types. Symbolic addressing is almost completely absent.
You might find more fertile ground plowing the plctalk.net forum when
your questions relate to the STL/SCL/FBD/LAD/CSF area.
FWIW, "STL" in Siemens-talk is an acronym for "Statement List". Why
it
isn't "SL" is anyone's guess.
--Chuck
10:54 a.m.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
You might find more fertile ground plowing the
plctalk.net forum when
your questions relate to the STL/SCL/FBD/LAD/CSF area.
FWIW, "STL" in Siemens-talk is an acronym for "Statement List". Why
it
isn't "SL" is anyone's guess.
I kept trying to figure out how anyone was going to program a Stereo
Lithography file. :)
g.
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11:28 a.m.
Modicon, ge faunic, Allen Bradly, Allen Heath, hewert Rand, Siemens, abb,
idec, square d, some I know I'm forgeting
On Apr 12, 2017 12:54 PM, "geneb via cctalk" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
You might find more fertile ground plowing the plctalk.net forum when
your questions relate to the STL/SCL/FBD/LAD/CSF
area.
FWIW, "STL" in Siemens-talk is an acronym for "Statement List". Why
it
isn't "SL" is anyone's guess.
I kept trying to figure out how anyone was going to program a Stereo
Lithography
file. :)
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
12:27 p.m.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017, Adrian Stoness wrote:
Modicon, ge faunic, Allen Bradly, Allen Heath, hewert
Rand, Siemens, abb,
idec, square d, some I know I'm forgeting
You don't "program" an STL file. It's a 3D object layout for a
3D printed
part. :)
(also, don't top post!)
g.
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ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
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