14 May
2012
14 May
'12
9:56 a.m.
Hi All,
I was wondering about the attendance at the recent VCF. Does anyone
have some idea how many people showed up that weren't already active
in classic computing? Do you think that we pulled any new people into
the hobby?
-Jon
14 May
14 May
10:29 a.m.
On May 14, 2012, at 9:56 AM, auringer tds.net wrote:
Hi All,
I was wondering about the attendance at the recent VCF. Does anyone
have some idea how many people showed up that weren't already active
in classic computing? Do you think that we pulled any new people into
the hobby?
I don't know, but I saw a good number of kids there! That was very
encouraging.
- Dave
8:54 p.m.
Hi All,
I was wondering about the attendance at the recent VCF. Does anyon have some idea how
many people showed up that weren't already active
in classic computing? Do you think that we pulled any new people into the hobby?
More than 200 people bought tickets. Of them, I estimate that about half
1/3 were in the hobby, 1/3 were general techies there to reminisce, and
1/3 were families.
9:21 p.m.
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Evan Koblentz <evan at snarc.net> wrote:
More than 200 people bought tickets. Of them, I
estimate that about half 1/3
were in the hobby, 1/3 were general techies there to reminisce, and 1/3 were
families.
Thanks Evan,
It sounds like a good turnout. That's encouraging. I am interested in
what kinds of exhibits appealed to the 2/3 that weren't already in the
hobby. Did anything in particular turn out to be popular with the
"general" crowd? Does everyone love the blinkenlights? Graphics or
audio demos?
-Jon
9:53 p.m.
More than 200
people bought tickets. Of them, I estimate that about half 1/3 were in the hobby, 1/3 were
general techies there to reminisce, and 1/3 were families.
Thanks Evan,
It sounds like a good turnout. That's encouraging. I am interested in what kinds of
exhibits appealed to the 2/3 that weren't already in the
hobby. Did anything in particular turn out to be popular with the "general"
crowd? Does everyone love the blinkenlights? Graphics or audio demos? 
11:14 p.m.
One of the more interesting exhibits for the general public was Ben
Greenfield's Handmade Computers. It was an assortment of old computer parts.
There were boards from a pre-IC missile guidance system. The plug-in boards
had transistors, diodes, resistors and capacitors. People could pick up
the boards the and look at them. This was popular with the kids.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-17B
He also had a vacuum tube storage device (William tube?) . There were
several other devices from the 1970 and 1980s plus old documentation. If you
open a modern electronic device you need a magnifier to see things.
Michael Holley
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> More than 200 people bought tickets. Of them, I
estimate that about half
1/3 were in the hobby, 1/3 were general techies there to
reminisce, and 1/3
were families.
Thanks Evan,
It sounds like a good turnout. That's encouraging. I am interested in
what kinds of exhibits appealed to the 2/3 that weren't already in the
hobby.
Did anything in particular turn out to be popular with the "general"
crowd? Does everyone love the blinkenlights? Graphics or audio demos?
I find that most people from the general public gravitate toward whatever
they grew up using. Or if they're not techies, then they gravitate toward
micros running videogames and any kind of Big Iron.
15 May
15 May
7:45 p.m.
Yes... I know of a teen who got his first vintage computer, a mac plus
It was a bit beaten and dirty, but he cleaned it up and powered it on and he has been
looking for a keyboard and mouse for it.
But this is just the beginning.
________________________________
From: auringer tds.net <auringer at tds.net>
Do you think that we pulled any new people into the hobby?
9:33 p.m.
On 05/15/2012 07:45 PM, Christian Liendo wrote:
Yes... I know of a teen who got his first vintage
computer, a mac plus
It was a bit beaten and dirty, but he cleaned it up and powered it on and he has been
looking for a keyboard and mouse for it.
But this is just the beginning.
He needs to start looking for a bigger house.
Now.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
11:21 p.m.
Dave McGuire wrote:
On 05/15/2012 07:45 PM, Christian Liendo wrote:
And a single life ;-)
Yes... I know of a teen who got his first vintage
computer, a mac plus
It was a bit beaten and dirty, but he cleaned it up and powered it on and he has been
looking for a keyboard and mouse for it.
But this is just the beginning.
He needs to start looking for a bigger house.
Now.
-Dave
16 May
16 May
3:11 a.m.
On 05/15/2012 11:21 PM, jimpdavis wrote:
And a single life ;-)
Nah, just a Significant Other who understands that she (assuming
"she") can't have a zebra without the stripes. My lady helps me find
(and move!) big iron. She knows that's my world.
If I can find a reasonable spouse, so can anyone.
-Dave
--
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New Kensington, PA
Yes... I know of a teen who got his first vintage
computer, a mac plus
It was a bit beaten and dirty, but he cleaned it up and powered it on
and he has been looking for a keyboard and mouse for it.
But this is just the beginning.
He needs to start looking for a bigger house.
Now. 
5:23 a.m.
If I can find a reasonable spouse, so can anyone.
I wish.
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On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Mouse <mouse at rodents-montreal.org> wrote:
Mine is very unreasonable, but we talked about that before....
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Amelia: Yeah.
Doctor: Everything's going to be fine.
If I can find
a reasonable spouse, so can anyone.
I wish. 
7:38 p.m.
On 05/16/2012 03:49 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
Doubtful. Just look where geek gals hang out. It did take me quite
awhile, and I did deep-six more than one of the "you should get rid of
all this stuff so I can move in and we can have a HOOOMMME!" types. But
it can be done.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
If I can
find a reasonable spouse, so can anyone.
OK, what's the trick?So far I've not managed to find a spouse, reasoanble
or not. Is this another regional thing? 
10:57 p.m.
Doubtful. Just look where geek gals hang out. It
did take me quite
awhile, and I did deep-six more than one of the "you should get rid of
all this stuff so I can move in and we can have a HOOOMMME!" types. But
it can be done.
That's exactly the type I'm worried about, which is why I've started being
very up front about my hobbies.
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17 May
17 May
2:59 a.m.
On 05/16/2012 10:57 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
That's one mistake right there. "Hobbies" are things some women think
they can simply "do away with". Tell them "this is what my life is
about" and they'll take it a bit more seriously.
(Assuming, of course, that this is indeed the case. It is for me.)
-Dave
--
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New Kensington, PA
Doubtful.
Just look where geek gals hang out. It did take me quite
awhile, and I did deep-six more than one of the "you should get rid of
all this stuff so I can move in and we can have a HOOOMMME!" types. But
it can be done.
That's exactly the type I'm worried about, which is why I've started being
very up front about my hobbies. 
4:43 a.m.
Dave McGuire wrote:
On 05/16/2012 10:57 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
That's one mistake right there. "Hobbies" are things some women think
they can simply "do away with". Tell them "this is what my life is
about" and they'll take it a bit more seriously.
(Assuming, of course, that this is indeed the case. It is for me.)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
...as I meet my GF (not married jet) for the first time I telled her,
that I'm just another kind of asshole. She had an asshole before, he
was in model train stuff .. all over the house, the garden and spent every
penny for that.
Now we live thogether for almost 11 years, nothing wrong with her, she
loves me and my ugly stuff, and I love her :-).We don't want to change
anything..
Regards,
Holm
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Doubtful. Just look where geek gals hang out. It did take me quite
awhile, and I did deep-six more than one of the "you should get rid of
all this stuff so I can move in and we can have a HOOOMMME!" types. But
it can be done.
That's exactly the type I'm worried about, which is why I've started being
very up front about my hobbies. 
3:50 p.m.
On Thu, 17 May 2012, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 05/17/2012 02:30 PM, Christian Liendo wrote:
I prefer Spring. She has a sunnier disposition.
*runs*
g.
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I met Dave's wife and she is a complete
sweetheart.
Kudos to you man...
Thank you, my friend. Most kind.
She has her moments, but Autumn is ok.
5:59 p.m.
On 05/17/2012 03:50 PM, Gene Buckle wrote:
I prefer Spring. She has a sunnier disposition.
*runs*
Mmm-hmm. ;) That's ok, everyone (and I mean EVERYONE) calls her Amber
half the time.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
I met Dave's wife and she is a complete
sweetheart.
Kudos to you man...
Thank you, my friend. Most kind.
She has her moments, but Autumn is ok.
8:47 p.m.
She has her moments, but Autumn is ok.
I prefer
Spring. She has a sunnier disposition.
9:33 a.m.
New subject: dating and things you enjoy was Re: VCF East question
Doubtful. Just look where geek gals hang out. It
did take me quite
awhile, and I did deep-six more than one of the "you should get rid of
all this stuff so I can move in and we can have a HOOOMMME!" types. But
it can be done.
That's exactly the type I'm worried about, which is why I've started being
very up front about my hobbies.
9:57 a.m.
New subject: dating and things you enjoy was Re: VCF East question
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Cameron Kaiser <spectre at floodgap.com> wrote:
True, I hadn't thought of that. I wonder what
percentage of those women who
self-select as geeks, etc., fall into the "I can just do away with those bad
habits [sic] of his" category.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QesT67dsRbg
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fine" and you think they're probably lying to make you feel better?
Amelia: Yeah.
Doctor: Everything's going to be fine.
10:18 a.m.
New subject: dating and things you enjoy was Re: VCF East question
Every woman falls into that category or she doesn't get married ;-)
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Subject: dating and things you enjoy was Re: VCF East question
That's one mistake right there. "Hobbies" are things some women think
they can simply "do away with". Tell them "this is what my life is
about" and they'll take it a bit more seriously.
True, I hadn't thought of that. I wonder what percentage of those women who
self-select as geeks, etc., fall into the "I can just do away with those bad
habits [sic] of his" category.
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Doubtful. Just look where geek gals hang out. It
did take me quite
awhile, and I did deep-six more than one of the "you should get rid of
all this stuff so I can move in and we can have a HOOOMMME!" types. But
it can be done.
That's exactly the type I'm worried about, which is why I've started being
very up front about my hobbies. 
1:13 p.m.
New subject: dating and things you enjoy was Re: VCF East question
> > > Doubtful. Just look where geek gals
hang out. It did take me
> > > quite
> > > awhile, and I did deep-six more than one of the "you should get rid
> > > of
> > > all this stuff so I can move in and we can have a HOOOMMME!" types.
> > > But
> > > it can be done.
Simple: Don't marry. Marriage is an expensive way to have someone to
cook, do the laundry and have some sex. You can pay for the three, and even
have it for free. Just don't marry.
I don't believe I'll marry again. Ever.
3:22 p.m.
New subject: dating and things you enjoy was Re: VCF East question
On 5/17/12 10:13 AM, "Alexandre Souza - Listas" <pu1bzz.listas at
gmail.com>
wrote:
No disrespect intended, but if that's what you think marriage is, then
you've probably made a good decision. -- Ian
PS: I can cook.
> > >
Doubtful. Just look where geek gals hang out. It did take me
> > > quite
> > > awhile, and I did deep-six more than one of the "you should get
>rid
> > > of
> > > all this stuff so I can move in and we can have a HOOOMMME!"
>types.
> > > But
> > > it can be done.
Simple: Don't marry. Marriage is an expensive way to have someone to
cook, do the laundry and have some sex. You can pay for the three, and
even
have it for free. Just don't marry.
I don't believe I'll marry again. Ever. 
3:57 p.m.
New subject: dating and things you enjoy was Re: VCF East question
On 17/05/2012 20:22, Ian King wrote:
On 5/17/12 10:13 AM, "Alexandre Souza -
Listas"<pu1bzz.listas at gmail.com>
wrote:
No disrespect intended, but if that's what you think marriage is, then
you've probably made a good decision. -- Ian
PS: I can cook.
Speaking as a "kept man" I think marriage is splendid....
>>> Doubtful. Just look where geek gals hang out. It did take me
>>> quite
>>> awhile, and I did deep-six more than one of the "you should get
> rid
>>> of
>>> all this stuff so I can move in and we can have a HOOOMMME!"
> types.
>>> But
>>> it can be done.
Simple: Don't marry. Marriage is an expensive
way to have someone to
cook, do the laundry and have some sex. You can pay for the three, and
even
have it for free. Just don't marry.
I don't believe I'll marry again. Ever. 
1:55 p.m.
New subject: dating and things you enjoy was Re: VCF East question
On 17 May 2012, at 6:33 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
True, I hadn't thought of that. I wonder what percentage of those women who
self-select as geeks, etc., fall into the "I can just do away with those bad
habits [sic] of his" category.
My (somewhat large) sample set suggests that a significant fraction of self-identified
geek women still suffer from the "in time I can steer him away from his
'hobbies'" fallacy. Fortunately it's not universal; the only issue that
Jen and I have is the shared complaint of how it would be nice if one of these days one of
us would find an interest that doesn't involve lots of space, money and really
heavy/dangerous/requires appropriate blessing from various governmental entities stuff.
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3:19 p.m.
New subject: dating and things you enjoy was Re: VCF East question
On 5/17/12 10:55 AM, "Christian Kennedy" <chris at mainecoon.com> wrote:
On 17 May 2012, at 6:33 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Many years ago, my (girlfriend -> wife) gave me gentle grief about hacking
on Linux until the wee hours. Through some odd pathways, that led to a
twelve-year stint at Microsoft and a comfortable income. A few years
later, she gave me gentle grief about these big old computers I was
filling the basement with. Through some odd pathways, that led to my
current position at the Living Computer Museum, and I can still pay the
mortgage and fill the fridge. She jokes that every "weird" hobby I take
up seems to turn into a career. She still gives me grief, mostly gentle -
and next month is 22 years of marriage.
Does she understand it? Not really, but I guess she realizes I'm a
package deal - and evidently what else I brought to the party has been
good enough to keep her (mostly) happy. --Ian
True, I hadn't thought of that. I wonder what percentage of those women
who
self-select as geeks, etc., fall into the "I can just do away with
those bad
habits [sic] of his" category.
My (somewhat large) sample set suggests that a significant fraction of
self-identified geek women still suffer from the "in time I can steer him
away from his 'hobbies'" fallacy. Fortunately it's not universal; the
only issue that Jen and I have is the shared complaint of how it would be
nice if one of these days one of us would find an interest that doesn't
involve lots of space, money and really heavy/dangerous/requires
appropriate blessing from various governmental entities stuff.
--
Dr. Christian Kennedy
chris at mainecoon.com AF6AP
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3 p.m.
New subject: dating and things you enjoy was Re: VCF East question
On 05/17/2012 09:33 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
That's one mistake right there. "Hobbies" are things some women think
they can simply "do away with". Tell them "this is what my life is
about" and they'll take it a bit more seriously.
True, I hadn't thought of that. I wonder what percentage of those women who
self-select as geeks, etc., fall into the "I can just do away with those bad
habits [sic] of his" category.
In my experience, not many. In most cases the dividing line coincides
with the one between "thinking people" and "the rest of 'em".
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Doubtful.
Just look where geek gals hang out. It did take me quite
awhile, and I did deep-six more than one of the "you should get rid of
all this stuff so I can move in and we can have a HOOOMMME!" types. But
it can be done.
That's exactly the type I'm worried about, which is why I've started being
very up front about my hobbies. 
4:18 p.m.
New subject: dating and things you enjoy was Re: VCF East question
On 17/05/2012 20:00, Dave McGuire wrote:
In my experience, not many. In most cases the dividing
line coincides
with the one between "thinking people" and "the rest of 'em".
-Dave
I find showing my wife selected closed Ebay auctions works well.. She
then does the sums (math) and shuts up!!
On the other hand i do have to smuggle things into the house, esp things
in beige boxes..
Her main gripe is my classic car sitting in the garage, which is where
it should be in my opinion!! :-)
Roger
9:54 p.m.
New subject: dating and things you enjoy was Re: VCF East question
On 5/17/12 1:18 PM, "Roger Pugh" <rogpugh at mac.com> wrote:
On 17/05/2012 20:00, Dave McGuire wrote:
And there are my four motorcycles.... -- Ian
In my experience, not many. In most cases the
dividing line coincides
with the one between "thinking people" and "the rest of 'em".
-Dave
I find showing my wife selected closed Ebay auctions works well.. She
then does the sums (math) and shuts up!!
On the other hand i do have to smuggle things into the house, esp things
in beige boxes..
Her main gripe is my classic car sitting in the garage, which is where
it should be in my opinion!! :-)
Roger
18 May
18 May
4:01 p.m.
New subject: dating and things you enjoy was Re: VCF East question
On the other hand i do have to smuggle things into the
house, esp things
in beige boxes..
If 'beige boxes' == PCs, then it sounds like she has taste.
Her main gripe is my classic car sitting in the garage, which is where
it should be in my opinion!! :-)
Surely it _should_ be on the road, being driven?
But I can't see why she'd object to a classic car in the garage, as
opposed to having bits of it in the kitchen, seay (what, you don't heat
an oil bath in the ovne? Or put bits i nthe freezer to contract them
before shring-fitting?
For some odd reasons, wives/mothers/girlfiends have this objection to you
using food preparation devices for engineering....I am told a good way to
initiate a divorce is to melt the wax out of a transsformer can on the
cooking hob.
-tony
6:12 p.m.
New subject: dating and things you enjoy was Re: VCF East question
On 18/05/2012 21:01, Tony Duell wrote:
If 'beige boxes' == PCs, then it sounds like
she has taste.
Please Tony........ :-)
The only (IBM copy) PC i have that i regard as of interest here is a
compaq portable.
Surely it _should_ be on the road, being driven?
Agree... but its my project incase of redundancy/lottery win/collapse
of civillisation
Roger
19 May
19 May
2:04 p.m.
New subject: dating and things you enjoy was Re: VCF East question
On 18/05/2012 21:01, Tony Duell wrote:
OK...
I seeme to rememebr somebody a few years back made a nasty comment about
'beige boxes' (meaning PCs) and I had to ask 'Just what have you got
against HP9000/200 machines?'. I've just turned it round :-)
If 'beige boxes' == PCs, then it sounds
like she has taste.
Please Tony........ :-)
The only (IBM copy) PC i have that i regard as of interest here is a
compaq portable. Surely it _should_ be on the road, being driven?
Agree... but its my project incase of redundancy/lottery win/collapse
of civillisation
4:23 p.m.
New subject: dating and things you enjoy was Re: VCF East question
On 19/05/2012 19:04, Tony Duell wrote:
Err, as I am sure you know, the parts and tools to
restore a classic
car are not cheap and may not be easy to get. So I can understand the
'lottery win' (even if I don't pay the voluntary tax on the
mathematically clueless :-)) but not redundany (I can think of more
inportnat things to spend money on, like food, power, water, etc) and
not the 'collapse of civilisation' (where you are going to have
problems finding BSW nuts and bolts, for example) -tony
There is nothing inherently wrong with it, justs needs recomisioning..
It needs my time or money for someone elses time, neither of which i
have at the moment..
Its a 1959 Bristol BTW.. Bespoke and hand built..
Off to Photographica for a browse tomorrow..
Roger
18 May
18 May
6:15 p.m.
New subject: dating and things you enjoy was Re: VCF East question
On 2012 May 18, at 1:01 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
For some odd reasons, wives/mothers/girlfiends have this objection
to you
using food preparation devices for engineering....I am told a good
way to
initiate a divorce is to melt the wax out of a transsformer can on the
cooking hob.
As a kid I used the kitchen oven to bake the photo-resist onto PCB
blanks. Floated the PCB in a baking pan filled with water to keep it
level for even distribution of the resist. This was followed by Mom's
UV sun-tanning lamp for the exposure.
17 May
17 May
2:36 p.m.
On 05/16/2012 03:49 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
Doubtful. Just look where geek gals hang out. It did take me quite
I am still not sure ofg the exact defintion of 'geek', but the only place
I know where I would meet such people is an HPCC meeting. We have one
female member, she's only just a teenager (the daugheter of anotehr
member in case you're wondering). Whatever else I might be, I am not a
paedophile...
If I
can find a reasonable spouse, so can anyone.
OK, what's the trick?So far I've not managed to find a spouse, reasoanble
or not. Is this another regional thing? awhile, and I did deep-six more than one of the
"you should get rid of
all this stuff so I can move in and we can have a HOOOMMME!" types. But
it can be done.
Err, yes... Like it's _possible_ to find a PERQ 2T4. Or an HP95C.
-tony
6:06 p.m.
On 05/17/2012 02:36 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
Doubtful. Just look where geek gals hang out. It did take me quite
I am still not sure ofg the exact defintion of 'geek',
There is no exact definition. I personally define "geek" as "nerd
with social skills". I further say that being a geek is good (and I'm
proud to be labeled as one), whilst being a nerd is...not so good.
If I can
find a reasonable spouse, so can anyone.
OK, what's the trick?So far I've not managed to find a spouse, reasoanble
or not. Is this another regional thing? but the only place
I know where I would meet such people is an HPCC meeting. We have one
female member, she's only just a teenager (the daugheter of anotehr
member in case you're wondering). Whatever else I might be, I am not a
paedophile...
I didn't say it was easy, but there are more geek girls out there now
than ever before. Visit maker faires and hackerspaces. Their
inhabitants would always value advice and mentoring from someone of your
caliber anyway. Social contact isn't always a bad thing. ;) The worst
that can happen is that you'll have some fun!
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
awhile, and I did deep-six more than one of the
"you should get rid of
all this stuff so I can move in and we can have a HOOOMMME!" types. But
it can be done.
Err, yes... Like it's _possible_ to find a PERQ 2T4. Or an HP95C.
16 May
16 May
8:47 p.m.
On May 16, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
I dunno. My wife found me playing D&D in her roommate's basement. I
figure that's as good a filter as any; if she's OK with me playing
fantasy games in a basement that smells like cat pee (we keep coming
back to that, don't we?), she'd put up with whatever other nonsense
I bring with me.
In short, don't let anyone tell you that playing Dungeons and Dragons
will ruin your social life.
- Dave
If I can find
a reasonable spouse, so can anyone.
OK, what's the trick?So far I've not managed to find a spouse, reasoanble
or not. Is this another regional thing?
15 May
15 May
11:22 p.m.
He's going into the service..
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
? He needs to start looking for a bigger house.
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