8 Sep
2001
8 Sep
'01
6:41 a.m.
I got a great bunch of artifacts recently from an
ex-Digit (DEC Employee)
who was finally not going to use his VAX for anything else any more.
They are a good source of interesting stuff. I got Autocad for VMS that
way.
These included:
A set a PAKs that rivals the Hobbyist offering
and exceeds it in that it has a PL/I and APL PAK.
I asked about PL/I not being included in the Hobbyist licensing program and
was told that was because Compaq no longer owns PL/I. I guess APL isn't in
the Hobbyist license set as that hasn't been a deliverable for a long time.
Does anyone know when it was last included in the ConDist sets? If so I
can look for it. I have several year's worth of ConDist CDs but have lost
the paperwork that listed the included products.
Of course a PAK generator solves the problem of missing PAKs quite nicely.
--
Eric Dittman
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8 Sep
8 Sep
7:18 a.m.
At 10:41 AM 9/8/01 -0500, Eric wrote:
I asked about PL/I not being included in the Hobbyist
licensing program and
was told that was because Compaq no longer owns PL/I. I guess APL isn't in
the Hobbyist license set as that hasn't been a deliverable for a long time.
Does anyone know when it was last included in the ConDist sets? If so I
can look for it. I have several year's worth of ConDist CDs but have lost
the paperwork that listed the included products.
The first disk of every ConDist has the all paperwork on it as postscript
and text files. You can print it out again if you lose it :-) I believe the
'94 and '96 ConDists both have APL on them.
Of course a PAK generator solves the problem of missing
PAKs quite nicely.
Yes it does, however I am dearly afraid that with HP and Compaq doing the
dance that the lore of such things will be permanently lost at some point.
If Compaq would just say "screw it, the next time someone requests a
license give them a non-expiring one." my heart would rest easier...
--Chuck
2:16 p.m.
New subject: APL (was Re: recent acquisitions for the House of VAX)
One of the sad things about this is that somewhat 'obscure'
languages like APL, PL/1, even LISP are not being transmitted to new
generations of programmers.
Myself, I would dearly love to have all the languages available
for my VAX, including APL, LISP, and (yes) Snobol. (I'm not sure DEC ever
did a Snobol for VMS, though, I think it just ran on TOPS-10).
Gordon
At 09:18 AM 9/8/2001 -0700, you wrote:
At 10:41 AM 9/8/01 -0500, Eric wrote:
Gordon Zaft
zaft(a)azstarnet.com
I asked about PL/I not being included in the
Hobbyist licensing program and
was told that was because Compaq no longer owns PL/I. I guess APL isn't in
the Hobbyist license set as that hasn't been a deliverable for a long time.
Does anyone know when it was last included in the ConDist sets? If so I
can look for it. I have several year's worth of ConDist CDs but have lost
the paperwork that listed the included products.
The first disk of every ConDist has the all paperwork on it as postscript
and text files. You can print it out again if you lose it :-) I believe
the '94 and '96 ConDists both have APL on them. 
3:36 p.m.
New subject: APL (was Re: recent acquisitions for the House of VAX)
I programmed in Snobol for a VAX, though I don't recall if it was
VMS or Ultrix... This was 15 or so years ago in school... Still
have the book for it too :)
Clint
On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, Gordon C. Zaft wrote:
One of the sad things about this is that somewhat 'obscure'
languages like APL, PL/1, even LISP are not being transmitted to new
generations of programmers.
Myself, I would dearly love to have all the languages available
for my VAX, including APL, LISP, and (yes) Snobol. (I'm not sure DEC ever
did a Snobol for VMS, though, I think it just ran on TOPS-10).
Gordon
At 09:18 AM 9/8/2001 -0700, you wrote:
At 10:41 AM 9/8/01 -0500, Eric wrote:
Gordon Zaft
zaft(a)azstarnet.com
I asked about PL/I not being included in the
Hobbyist licensing program and
was told that was because Compaq no longer owns PL/I. I guess APL isn't in
the Hobbyist license set as that hasn't been a deliverable for a long time.
Does anyone know when it was last included in the ConDist sets? If so I
can look for it. I have several year's worth of ConDist CDs but have lost
the paperwork that listed the included products.
The first disk of every ConDist has the all paperwork on it as postscript
and text files. You can print it out again if you lose it :-) I believe
the '94 and '96 ConDists both have APL on them.
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