On Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:40:31 -0400 (EDT) William Donzelli &lt;aw288(a)osfn.org&gt; writes: < Bunch of stuff SNIPped > these Yeah, that's what I said, and it's based on my experiences with a local party. I bring him a pile of stuff culled from his various heaps, and the question is "Let's how much gold you got there". That's all it boils down to, because that's how he chooses to operate his business. I've tried to impress upon him that this stuff is worth more alive than dead, but he is slow to understand. I made this statement because it parallels the 'treasure hunter' mentality towards archeological digs during the early part of the last century. "How much gold we got?". Alot of history got melted as a result. But I'm tired of talking about this. The good people know who they are, and everyone else seems to know who they are. The assholes tend to remain clueless, but we can usually work around them (or at least pick up the pieces after the fact, which is what I do). Jeff ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.