Iorc, the mice are sun compatable, but that may just be for the IDT workstation. I have a recollection that they are also compatable with the Series 4, 5 and 5e I/O boards. I know a guy that I used to work with there that will know for sure. I'll ask him. He still has a series 5e in service... Warner On Wed, May 23, 2018, 8:51 AM Alan Perry via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Alan Perry <aperry at snowmoose.com> wrote: I talked with my friend who worked at Solbourne longer than I did. This isn't quite right. The connectors are different, but the signalling is the same. You need a custom adapter, though, so you get the right signals on the right pins. Solbourne specifically made their keyboards incompatible with Suns at the connector level to force people to buy keyboards from Solbourne, but used the same basic parts as Sun keyboards to save on development costs. While the big battleship keyboards have extra keys, the scan codes for the basic keys are the same (though he cautioned me that was only his memory, but based on how fanatical they were about being Sun compatible). After he told me that, I recalled that I found an odd cable a few years ago in my big box of cables that could have been such an adapter, though I don't have it any more. He suggested using the SE guide that was on bitkeepers to make an adapter. I went looking for special keyboard maps for the Solbourne, and all I found was Tom LaStrange's name in twm from the updates he did while working at Solbroune, so maybe my friend is right. I'd have expected to find that they would have been in X11R4 or X11R5, but no dice. The CG30 card was a simple clone of sun's cg3 dumb frame buffer. The graphics card had to be 100% code compatible with Sun, so it would be odd to have different. I also couldn't find anything in my .x* files, even though I had OI specific resources I deleted in 2010... He confirmed the mouse thing was 100% correct. He used that setup for several years. Though I was incorrect: he gave all his Solbourne stuff to a local computer museum that seems to have disappeared... Warner

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:59 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk < cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: Yes. Right. I'm unsure. He's a solid enough for me to try it, but without confirmation, I'm not sure changing the docs is a wise idea. Warner

On Wed, May 23, 2018, 9:46 AM Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.orgwrote: You do need a serial port for that. On boot, the boot roms print both places, though you may need to pull the color graphics card if the defaults have been changed. If you buy one, let me know. Somewhere I have the field service manual from when I worked there... Warner

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On 5/23/18 8:54 AM, Warner Losh wrote: If it's different from what I have on bitsavers, i'd like to scan it.