I?ll check in the morning but believe the 2 machines are identical except for screen size. I?ll also check for the same version of Parallels. I assume since these are 2010 machines I could upgrade the Parallels to current. They are both running High Sierra. On startup the 17? <the slower one>. Takes a very long time to show the desktop icons. I have the feeling the problem isn?t Parallels as there is slowness in email and iTunes without Parallels being started up. George

I got the 17? just before Ecobinary moved from the Beaverton location. I have heard they are no more. They both have ESET internet security but will run Malware bytes in the morning. George

It may be good idea to check the CPU temperature and the airflow inside the computer - dust buildup may reduce airflow and cooling, which in turn may cause CPU throttling.

Thermal paste can get hard and stop conducting heat. Also, the heatpipes can fail and quit moving the heat from the processor or GPU over to the heat exchanger (the little radiator and fan.) Both will cause CPU to throttle way down. See if it's an issue, if so may need to remove the heatpipe setup or heatsink and respooge it. - Ethan -- : Ethan O'Toole

Hi Fred, I am curious how your batteries are doing in those two MacBook Pros. Are they still original? If yes, is there any swelling noticeable and any weirdness with the touch pad? Thanks Tom Hunter On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 7:16 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:

My 2011 has a new battery as of this spring. *Everything* worked, including a several-hour battery life, but the swelling of the battery made it hard to click the trackpad. That is indeed worth a check. Tom?s suggestion is a good one. - Mark 210-522-6025 office 210-379-4635 cell On Aug 21, 2020, at 9:33 AM, George Rachor via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org<mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org>> wrote: [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Battery was replaced in the 15 inch last year? On original battery in the 17?. George ... I am curious how your batteries are doing in those two MacBook Pros. Are they still original? If yes, is there any swelling noticeable and any weirdness with the touch pad? Thanks Tom Hunter On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 7:16 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org<mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org>> wrote: There must be a better resource than this list for something THAT obsolete. On Thu, 20 Aug 2020, George Rachor via cctalk wrote: I have 2 2010 macbook pro's. Each have 8GB of Ram and both have a 2 TB hybrid seagate hard drives. Running Windows via Parallels. 15 inch system have reasonable perfomance. 17 inch system just crawls running windows. With RAM maxed out what else should I be looking for?

On Aug 21, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: It?s definitely not current, it?s no longer supported by Apple. Plus at 10 years old, by the *ORIGINAL* definition of this group, it?s on topic. I?m mildly amused by how many of us are obviously running this vintage Mac laptop. I don?t know what the options are for MacBook Pro?s, but there is a fascinating Facebook group for the original Mac Pro?s (non-Trashcan, non-current). People are hacking the older Mac Pro?s (esp. 2010?s) to be closer to, or better than the Trashcan. Zane

I think everything is on-topic for "cctalk", isn't it? Unfortunately, the "cctech" moderated view of the list hasn't worked properly since the list server was rebuilt after a crash several years ago so we are all effectively stuck with the "cctalk" view of the list whether we like it or not. This is not so bad though as there has been next to no truly off-topic stuff on "cctalk" for a very long time now. (I hope I haven't jinxed it by saying it out loud though...) I agree it might be a bit borderline for "cctech" but I think it's fine for "cctalk" by definition. Regards, Peter Coghlan.