25 Feb
2019
25 Feb
'19
8:23 a.m.
Hi,
what is the recommended way to image HP 85 tape cartridges? The best would
be including headers and whatsoever, and to be able to recreate tapes from
the images and have a 1:1 duplicate from the original cartridge.
I'm almost done with rebelting and imaging our 264x cartridges and would
like to continue with the other tapes (85 and 9845).
Christian
25 Feb
25 Feb
5:33 p.m.
The way I have been doing it is to copy the tape files to a LIF floppy disk file (real or
just emulated with HPDRIVE), then archive that - either just the HPDRIVE file or a
ImageDisk archive of the real disk.
Recreating the tape is the inverse process of copying the virtual or real disk to the
tape.
Marc
On Feb 25, 2019, at 8:23 AM, Christian Corti via
cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Hi,
what is the recommended way to image HP 85 tape cartridges? The best would be including
headers and whatsoever, and to be able to recreate tapes from the images and have a 1:1
duplicate from the original cartridge.
I'm almost done with rebelting and imaging our 264x cartridges and would like to
continue with the other tapes (85 and 9845).
Christian
26 Feb
26 Feb
12:40 a.m.
On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, it was written
The way I have been doing it is to copy the tape files
to a LIF floppy
disk file (real or just emulated with HPDRIVE), then archive that -
either just the HPDRIVE file or a ImageDisk archive of the real disk.
Recreating the tape is the inverse process of copying the virtual or
real disk to the tape.
And what about SECUREd files? I'm thinking of a binary program that
ideally dumps the cartridge to e.g a single floppy disk file. I've done
something similarly for the IBM 5110, but I'm no HP 85 expert at all.
There's quite a large HP community, I can't imagine that nobody has
attempted that before.
Christian
5:07 a.m.
On Tue, 26 Feb 2019, Christian Corti wrote:
And what about SECUREd files? I'm thinking of a
binary program that ideally
dumps the cartridge to e.g a single floppy disk file. I've done something
similarly for the IBM 5110, but I'm no HP 85 expert at all.
There's quite a large HP community, I can't imagine that nobody has attempted
that before.
Meanwhile, I've found this:
http://www.biblewitness.org/technical/HP_Series-80/HP-85/ASSM/TAPDUPS.TXT
But I have no idea what it does. It sounds interesting, though. Any HP 85
experts here who can comment on this program?
Christian
6:22 p.m.
On 2019-02-26 9:07 a.m., Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2019, Christian Corti wrote:
Well a quick google and I found this
http://vintagecomputers.site90.net/hp85/hp9915_eprom.htm it would seem
that this was one of the tools used to build images of programs to burn
into EPROMs for? 9915 which is a version of the 85 designed to be used
as an embedded controller.
Paul.
And what about SECUREd files? I'm thinking of
a binary program that
ideally dumps the cartridge to e.g a single floppy disk file. I've
done something similarly for the IBM 5110, but I'm no HP 85 expert at
all.
There's quite a large HP community, I can't imagine that nobody has
attempted that before.
Meanwhile, I've found this:
http://www.biblewitness.org/technical/HP_Series-80/HP-85/ASSM/TAPDUPS.TXT
But I have no idea what it does. It sounds interesting, though. Any HP
85 experts here who can comment on this program?
Christian
27 Feb
27 Feb
12:39 a.m.
On Tue, 26 Feb 2019, Paul Berger wrote:
Well a quick google and I found this
http://vintagecomputers.site90.net/hp85/hp9915_eprom.htm it would seem that
this was one of the tools used to build images of programs to burn into
EPROMs for? 9915 which is a version of the 85 designed to be used as an
embedded controller.
I don't think this is the same program. The TAPDUP I'm looking at has 13
tokens/commands, none of which is mentioned in any of the 9915 docs.
Christian
26 Feb
26 Feb
10:30 a.m.
Christian,
This I don?t know. You should join the hp 80 group on groups.io and ask there:
https://groups.io/g/hpseries80
Some of the original engineers for the 85 are on there, they know every detail, and are
incredibly helpful.
Marc
On Feb 26, 2019, at 12:40 AM, Christian Corti via
cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, it was written
The way I have been doing it is to copy the tape
files to a LIF floppy disk file (real or just emulated with HPDRIVE), then archive that -
either just the HPDRIVE file or a ImageDisk archive of the real disk. Recreating the tape
is the inverse process of copying the virtual or real disk to the tape.
And what about SECUREd files? I'm thinking of a binary program that ideally dumps the
cartridge to e.g a single floppy disk file. I've done something similarly for the IBM
5110, but I'm no HP 85 expert at all.
There's quite a large HP community, I can't imagine that nobody has attempted
that before.
Christian
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