Hans: I did some investigation of this several years ago on this topic exactly. I was able to put my hands on the motion to approve the sale of the assets of CEL and CBM. Excerpting from the court filing, as follows: ---------------------- UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK Notice of hearing to appeove sale of assets and solicitation of higher or better offers. ... PLEASE TAKE FURTHER NOTICE THAT the sale to Escom is pursuant to a contract (the "Contract") dated March 13, 1995 providing for the conveyance of specified assets (collectively referred to here in as the "assets"), including the right, title and interest of the Commodore Entities to substantially all of their intellectual property, including technology, trademarks (including Commodore's logo and the names "Amiga" and "Commodore"), patents, copyrights, and know-how, and tooling, inventory, components, spare parts, microchips, and microchip test and design equipment, for a gross price of approximately $5 million in cash. The technology being offered for sale includes all technology and patents developed in connection with Commodore's products, including the Amiga 1200, the Amiga 4000, and the Amiga CD32. {end quote} -------------------- The auction was to take place on April 20, 1995. As I recall, Escom did purchase all of the 8-bit technology, including all of the Amiga stuff, and then promptly filed for insolvency on July 15, 1996. Then, supposedly all of the same assets were sold to Gateway, which then sold the Amiga goodies to Amiga, Inc. (Snoqualmie, WA). I would suspect that the 8-bit technology went with it, although I can't confirm it. If someone knows anyone in the know at Gateway or Amiga, that would be a good way to find out. However, when reading CBM's reorganization plan (which obviously was never delcared effective; the company was ultimately liquidated), it specifically mentions the desire of the liquidators of CIL and CEL to sell all of the intellectual property, know-how, tooling, and inventory, including that of the C64 and Amiga products. The reorganization plan also indicated that CBM had $150 million of unsecured trade claims, including $95 million to various other Commodore entities. More information. As of an early-1997 D&B report, the officers of GMT Microelectronics (purchaser of the CSG real property and equipment in the auction) included Dennis Peasenell (CHB), James Oerth (CTO), Anthonw Wilson (VP of Facilities), George Giansanti (President), Thomas Aiken (CFO) and Alan Sabanosh (VP of Manufacturing). GMT purchased the Norristown facility on September 2, 1994 (closing on January 6, 1995) for $4.3 million in cash. This acquisition was to include some personal property (equipment and raw materials and finished goods on hand, I would suspect). Rich Pseudo-attorney -----Original Message----- From: Hans Franke [mailto:Hans.Franke@mch20.sbs.de] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 7:12 AM To: Richard A. Cini, Jr. Subject: Re: Brochure re: CSG liquidation Hallo Rich, and In fact, I'm still searching for some informations. for example who owns the IP of CSG ? Like the 6510 or 6530 cips - also who owns the IP for Commodore programm code, like the 6530 ROM content ? Maybe you got any idea ? Back in the final Commodore auction in NYC, these rights have not been mentioned. the only alike IP part has been the Amiga lot. Seams as if the ownership has been 'lost'. Jep, great historic material. Thank you Servus Hans -- VCF Europa 2.0 am 28./29. April 2001 in Muenchen http://www.vintage.org/vcfe http://www.homecomputer.de/vcfe