11 Nov
1998
11 Nov
'98
11:24 a.m.
At 09:31 AM 11/11/98 -0800, you wrote:
I frequently get given 286 and 386 computers as well as
hearing about people
[...]
A couple of places I have found: people who need word
processing, but can't
afford a computer; elementary school classrooms where the district either
won't or can't buy computers for them; some "rescue mission" type places
The problem with these solutions is either that you need to take the time
to set them up and test them and do some training, or the organization
does. If they have such system in place, then great. If they have a
techie that volunteers, wonderful, but to just dump a bunch of '286's on a
school or shelter will only serve to eat up needed storage space.
I work with my girlfriend's school to keep a bunch of older macs running
and usable. Every summer, I lug them home so they don't get stolen, and
every fall I lug them back, test them, and get them set up. If you have
an older Mac (or even a newer mac!) that you want to get rid of, by all
means, let me know.
But we're not set up to handle PC's at the moment -- I don't have the time
to set them up/test them/train the teachers, we don't have software for
them, and there's no one else at the school who could do anything with them.
So, while I'm all in favor of the concept, I have to say that in practice,
it doesn't always work out as it should. You may find yourself doing a lot
of work that you don't have time for, or the organization may thank you
profusely as they shove them out the back door into the dumpster.
Old tech is very useful, if you know what to do with it. The mainstream
computer industry (ChumpUSA, TV Shows, AOL, etc.) does not provide that
support. Without it, old tech is worthless.
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11 Nov
11 Nov
11:40 a.m.
When I saw in Junior High in a rural community, I took a bunch of "shop"
classes (wood shop, metal shop, small engine repair, ...). Don't Junior
Highs offer computer repair classes these days? A 286 box would make a
fine machine to tear down, desolder, rebuild, trace faults, etc.
-- Doug
10 Nov
10 Nov
12:18 p.m.
Doug Yowza wrote:
When I saw in Junior High in a rural community, I took
a bunch of "shop"
classes (wood shop, metal shop, small engine repair, ...). Don't Junior
Highs offer computer repair classes these days? A 286 box would make a
fine machine to tear down, desolder, rebuild, trace faults, etc.
-- Doug
And risk putting the local overpriced pooter shop out of business? Not in
most of these small, closed click towns. Many times the people involved in
the computer business make sure they're on the school appropriations counsel
so they can manipulate it to their own benefit since they know what the
budget is and can alter bids on new stuff to work into the budget. See it
here all the time, in a county of 17k and the surrounding similar counties.
11 Nov
11 Nov
7:03 p.m.
On 10 Nov 98 at 17:18, Russ Blakeman wrote:
Doug Yowza wrote:
Yep good old entrepeneureal self-interest. Several community councils in
our national parks up here comprised of local businessmen make sure there is no
competition by denying potential competitors the required business licence. So
much for the socially advantageous benefits of the "free" market.
(over to you Ward) :^))
ciao larry
lwalker(a)interlog.com
When I saw in Junior High in a rural community, I
took a bunch of "shop"
classes (wood shop, metal shop, small engine repair, ...). Don't Junior
Highs offer computer repair classes these days? A 286 box would make a
fine machine to tear down, desolder, rebuild, trace faults, etc.
-- Doug
And risk putting the local overpriced pooter shop out of business? Not in
most of these small, closed click towns. Many times the people involved in
the computer business make sure they're on the school appropriations counsel
so they can manipulate it to their own benefit since they know what the
budget is and can alter bids on new stuff to work into the budget. See it
here all the time, in a county of 17k and the surrounding similar counties.
12 Nov
12 Nov
5:22 a.m.
Lawrence Walker wrote:
It's called Rotarian Socialism and it's a permanent feature of
Republican politics with many Democrat supporters. "Leave us
alone to run our businesses and keep those subsidies coming". I
don't feel like preaching this morning. If a business requires a
license, there isn't a free market, leave it at that.
--
Ward Griffiths <mailto:gram@cnct.com> <http://www.cnct.com/home/gram/>
WARNING: The Attorney General has determined that Alcohol, Tobacco,
and Firearms can be hazardous to your health -- and get away with it.
On 10 Nov 98 at 17:18, Russ Blakeman wrote:
And risk
putting the local overpriced pooter shop out of business? Not in
most of these small, closed click towns. Many times the people involved in
the computer business make sure they're on the school appropriations counsel
so they can manipulate it to their own benefit since they know what the
budget is and can alter bids on new stuff to work into the budget. See it
here all the time, in a county of 17k and the surrounding similar counties.
Yep good old entrepeneureal self-interest. Several community councils in
our national parks up here comprised of local businessmen make sure there is no
competition by denying potential competitors the required business licence. So
much for the socially advantageous benefits of the "free" market.
(over to you Ward) :^))
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