30 Jan
2002
30 Jan
'02
6:31 a.m.
Has anyone ever heard of Nuclear Data? I found this cool-assed computer
today. It's an all-in-one unit (CRT/keyboard/diskdrive/CPU) and is fairly
big (say, as big as an IBM Datamaster, bigger than a PET).
The coolest part about it is that it seems to be LSI/11 compatible. At
least it has a DEC bus (whatever the bus is called that had quad
slot connectors).
The card cage pulls out from the back and is situated behind the CRT. I
couldn't find the processor card because there were too many cables
jumbled around. It seems to have a couple firmware cards. I wasn't able
to boot it up because I couldn't find the right kind of power cable (it
uses one of those oval shaped power cables...I just saw one the other day
and now can't remember where I put it).
A Google search turns up nothing relevant.
I would have snapped a digital photo but my camera is malfunctioning.
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30 Jan
30 Jan
4:23 p.m.
Your web search skills need some work. Start with: www.spies.com/~aek/orphanage.html and
www.fortunecity.com/marina/reach/435/complist.html. There were also some posts on this
list regarding
Nuclear Data cards for LSI-11.
I am sure Uncle Al could tell you more.
Louis
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:31:17 +0000 (UTC), Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
#
#Has anyone ever heard of Nuclear Data? I found this cool-assed computer
#today. It's an all-in-one unit (CRT/keyboard/diskdrive/CPU) and is fairly
#big (say, as big as an IBM Datamaster, bigger than a PET).
#
#The coolest part about it is that it seems to be LSI/11 compatible. At
#least it has a DEC bus (whatever the bus is called that had quad
#slot connectors).
#
#The card cage pulls out from the back and is situated behind the CRT. I
#couldn't find the processor card because there were too many cables
#jumbled around. It seems to have a couple firmware cards. I wasn't able
#to boot it up because I couldn't find the right kind of power cable (it
#uses one of those oval shaped power cables...I just saw one the other day
#and now can't remember where I put it).
#
#A Google search turns up nothing relevant.
#
#I would have snapped a digital photo but my camera is malfunctioning.
#
#--
#
#Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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#International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
#
# * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *
#
4:28 p.m.
So stop braging Sellam.... lets see some pictures of your new find! ;-)
Curt
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January 30, 2002 12:31 PM
Subject: Nuclear Data 66?
Has anyone ever heard of Nuclear Data? I found this cool-assed computer
today. It's an all-in-one unit (CRT/keyboard/diskdrive/CPU) and is fairly
big (say, as big as an IBM Datamaster, bigger than a PET).
The coolest part about it is that it seems to be LSI/11 compatible. At
least it has a DEC bus (whatever the bus is called that had quad
slot connectors).
The card cage pulls out from the back and is situated behind the CRT. I
couldn't find the processor card because there were too many cables
jumbled around. It seems to have a couple firmware cards. I wasn't able
to boot it up because I couldn't find the right kind of power cable (it
uses one of those oval shaped power cables...I just saw one the other day
and now can't remember where I put it).
A Google search turns up nothing relevant.
I would have snapped a digital photo but my camera is malfunctioning.
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger
http://www.vintage.org
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10:30 p.m.
The coolest part about it is that it seems to be
LSI/11 compatible. At
least it has a DEC bus (whatever the bus is called that had quad
slot connectors).
QBus or Q-bus or Q-Bus ...
Fits together: Qbus is the standard bus for LSI/11s. CPU types take the
form of 11/x3, and options usually end with a V (e.g. DLV-11/E), though
this is not true for the more "modern" ones, such as the DELQA. I doubt,
however, that you'll find this option there - it's an Ethernet card! ;-)
There was a variant of the VT100 that had a LSI/11 built in. Apparently,
DEC weren't the only ones to make something like this.
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Andreas Freiherr
Vishay Semiconductor GmbH, Heilbronn, Germany
http://www.vishay.com
31 Jan
31 Jan
2:50 a.m.
--- Andreas Freiherr <Andreas.Freiherr(a)Vishay.com> wrote:
You say "to-mah-to", I say "to-may-to". Let's call the whole
thing off...
The coolest
part about it is that it seems to be LSI/11 compatible. At
least it has a DEC bus (whatever the bus is called that had quad
slot connectors).
QBus or Q-bus or Q-Bus ... Fits together: Qbus is the standard bus for LSI/11s.
CPU types take the
form of 11/x3, and options usually end with a V (e.g. DLV-11/E), though
this is not true for the more "modern" ones, such as the DELQA. I doubt,
however, that you'll find this option there - it's an Ethernet card! ;-)
Network stuff was funny - you have the DEQNA, the DELQA and the DESQA,
IIRC (well... _you_ just may have... _I_ only have one DEQNA). Then
there's the SDI interface - KDA-50, and the later comm interfaces...
But, it's true... for the older cards, there's a V in the name (DLV11J,
RLV11, RLV12, MSV11, RXV21, RKV11...)
There was a variant of the VT100 that had a LSI/11
built in. Apparently,
DEC weren't the only ones to make something like this.
Strangely enough... it's the VT103! Had optional dual drive TU58 mounted
under monitor (got one, gotta replace the rollers with tygon tubing).
I always wanted to put a UNIX-based machine in mine back in the old days.
Not as important a project these days (re: other thread about Small UNIX
boxes).
I haven't been so lucky to run across some of the third-party DEC stuff.
Most of my Qbus collection is straight DEC. One card I have that I wish
I could find docs on, looks like a Systems Industries(?) CS-1 SCSI card.
It does not live at any of the usual MSCP-interface addresses. Beyond
that, I suspect it's a tape-only interface, so perhaps I didn't look
where a TMSCP device lives.
-ethan
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4:49 a.m.
Ethan Dicks wrote:
--- Andreas
Freiherr <Andreas.Freiherr(a)Vishay.com> wrote:
There was a variant of the VT100 that had a LSI/11 built in. Apparently,
DEC weren't the only ones to make something like this.
Strangely enough...
it's the VT103! Had optional dual drive TU58 mounted
under monitor (got one, gotta replace the rollers with tygon tubing). from an external PC power supply which was also used
for the
second MFM drive with the extra cables that could be exposed
from inside the PDP-11 section. At the very end - just
for
a test, I put in 5 cards - M8192-AC, DLV11-J, 4 MBytes of Memory
(Christlen), Sigma RQD11-EC Quad ESDI disk controller and a DHV11.
There was, of course, insufficient power to run the ESDI hard drives, so
they were just on the desk using a PC power supply and each also had
its own fan.
Now I also use a PC power supply to run my hard drives when I run
RT-11 and boot from a real DEC TU-58, but that is another story.
I haven't been so lucky to run across some of the
third-party DEC stuff.
Most of my Qbus collection is straight DEC. One card I have that I wish
I could find docs on, looks like a Systems Industries(?) CS-1 SCSI card.
It does not live at any of the usual MSCP-interface addresses. Beyond
that, I suspect it's a tape-only interface, so perhaps I didn't look
where a TMSCP device lives.
About the best (and most expensive) host adapter for the Qbus is the
SCSI CQD-220A/TM from CMD. It is a dual board which has boot
ROMs and supports both disk drives (hard, optical and Zip) and tape
drives. It is no longer made - which is perhaps why the price now stays
high.
Sincerely yours,
Jerome Fine
6:35 a.m.
Strangely enough... it's the VT103! Had optional
dual drive TU58 mounted
under monitor (got one, gotta replace the rollers with tygon tubing).
I think I also saw one a _couple_ of years ago that had dual floppy
drives on top of the VT1xx box. Is it possible that there was something
like a VT180? Or was it the "Robin"? - Too long ago. "Dave ... my mind
is going ... I can feel it ..."
I still have to connect a TU58 to my home-grown Motorola 6809 and put a
little RT-11 file system knowledge into it's boot EPROM. That would
allow me to use MACRO-11 as a development platform... - Different
project...
I haven't been so lucky to run across some of the
third-party DEC stuff.
Most of my Qbus collection is straight DEC. One card I have that I wish
I could find docs on, looks like a Systems Industries(?) CS-1 SCSI card.
It does not live at any of the usual MSCP-interface addresses. Beyond
that, I suspect it's a tape-only interface, so perhaps I didn't look
where a TMSCP device lives.
If it's a tape interface, then, yes, it will have a different CSR
address. Most of my collection - if you allow me to use this word in
this place - is also straight DEC, even my microfiche viewer served a
DEC technician in it's (the viewers ;-) former life. So I cannot be of
much help with this board, sorry!
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Andreas Freiherr
Vishay Semiconductor GmbH, Heilbronn, Germany
http://www.vishay.com
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