After I got the PowerMacs, I went back with an idea. Since he considers 486's and lower to be useless I made a suggestion. I would tear them down to cards, memory, drives, cables, etc. and I would take the stuff to an upcoming hamfest (see next posting) and sell it cheap. He agreed and we decided on a 50-50 split and I got 'skimming' rights to the machines as I tear them down to cover my time. We also decided to recycle the cases and motherboards to keep them out of the landfill. So after a few afternoons I got more PC stuff piled around here than even I can tolerate. Let me just say that I am not so naive as to believe that the majority of this mess will sell. I suspect the shop owner thinks otherwise. But who knows, someone might walk up and see that box full of hundreds of SIMMS and make me an offer that I just can't refuse. During those afternoons, he would come back and offer to give me this and that. I think he was happy to just be able to walk into the store room and see the empty space grow. Out of all his offers was a monitor for a PowerMac that had been recently uncovered. The thing that probably made all of this worth it is what I call the Borland Bonanza. Among all the machines were boxes of software. I got about two dozen sets of disks in unopened plastic wrap. It includes Paradox, dbase, Turbo C++, Turbo Pascal, ObjectVision, Delphi, etc. For some products there is both DOS and Windoze versions. Given that it is older versions, I suppose that it is available on their web site. Still there is something to be said for having the original disks. Mike