I ran into those items yesterday while checking out pricing for classic computer stuff. My first comment is ... I'M RICH :). Second (and more seriously), I read a while ago that the average selling time for older books is five years. My guess in both cases is that they are priced for someone that *needs* them. I found another closed auction today for a BUNCH (approx. 25) of Northstar Advantage computers/boards/etc. with a starting bid of $500.00 with no reserve. Good thing I didn't see that when the auction was open :)!!!