16 Sep
1999
16 Sep
'99
6:51 a.m.
I have a VaxStation 3520 in the garage that seems to
boot.
If you either yank the graphics cards or hold the halt button in
during reset it'll use the MMJ as a serial console.
It seems like a really nice box
except for the BI bus
That's M-Bus, not VAXBI.
(it has Qbus too!),
If you have the FTAM (Firefox Tape Adapter Module), you can only use
QBus devices that can tolerate upwards of 20 microseconds bus latency
(I have a specially modified RQDX3 somewhere...). If
you have the FQAM (Firefox QBus Adapter Module, designed after it
became apparent that FTAM was in trouble) the latencies are acceptable
but the QBus throughput is only about 250KB/s.
Welcome to the magic of write-back cache.
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
16 Sep
16 Sep
7:59 p.m.
Ok, I got the firefox to boot to the serial line, but I have no passwords
and it won't let me do the usual security bypassing stuff. When I try the
uafalternate=1 thing, it stops the initialization with a file
specification error and when I try the startup-via-opa0: trick, there are
no commands available (i.e. SPAWN isn't a valid command and
@sys$system:startup isn't found). What can I do? If I let it boot
normally to the console, it'll let me try to log in, but guessing the
password is pretty hopeless. The OS version banner tells me it's VMS
T5.4-4G1. Does this mean anything abmormal? Both processors come up,
BTW.
TIA
jake
8:14 p.m.
Jake wrote:
Ok, I got the firefox to boot to the serial line, but
I have no passwords
and it won't let me do the usual security bypassing stuff. When I try the
Well, at least you're getting further than I have so far. I pulled the
SCSI disc out of mine for examination, and it was a non-DEC drive
that contained for Novell Netware for a PC. I guess the drive must
have been swapped in a bizarre plan to keep the original software and
data from falling into the wrong hands.
I haven't yet signed up for DECUS membership and a VMS hobbyist license,
but I guess I'd better do it.
8:55 p.m.
Thanks for the morale booster, but this thing's awfully weird. None of
the normal chevron prompt commands work and I can't find a listing of them
on the net. b [dev] or b/1 [dev] are the only commands I've gotten to do
anything yet. no help, etc. at least the 3100s had 'sho dev'!
Hella cryptic.
jake
On 17 Sep 1999, Eric Smith wrote:
Jake wrote:
Ok, I got the firefox to boot to the serial line,
but I have no passwords
and it won't let me do the usual security bypassing stuff. When I try the
Well, at least you're getting further than I have so far. I pulled the
SCSI disc out of mine for examination, and it was a non-DEC drive
that contained for Novell Netware for a PC. I guess the drive must
have been swapped in a bizarre plan to keep the original software and
data from falling into the wrong hands.
I haven't yet signed up for DECUS membership and a VMS hobbyist license,
but I guess I'd better do it.
17 Sep
17 Sep
4:14 a.m.
Thanks for the morale booster, but this thing's
awfully weird. None of
the normal chevron prompt commands work and I can't find a listing of them
on the net. b [dev] or b/1 [dev] are the only commands I've gotten to do
anything yet. no help, etc. at least the 3100s had 'sho dev'!
Hella cryptic.
Well if it's a MicroVAX then thats normal. There is a very limited
command set that resemble a low level debugger and nothing of the
capability of the 3100s capabilities. Attributable to it being older and
having less ROM. If it boots anything (or tries to) the hardware is
likely ok and then it's a matter of either cracking the password or
installing an OS.
Allison
7:22 a.m.
New subject: firefox success!
Hey all!
I tried both break-in procedures again and it finally gave way! I
removed the system password and reset all the sysboot variables to
original, booted it up and now it's all cool. I don't know why those
breakins failed the first time through... Maybe crust on the disk or
something. I'm pretty sure I did evertyhing the same; I was following the
directions explicitly.
Thanks for the prodding, Allison and Eric.
Thanks for the printerMMJ/console/HALT button tip, Roger.
Thanks for the hardware heads-up, Dan. (I'll be in contact soon; hope the
storm went by OK.)
mucho gratitude..
jake
[[for the voyeuristic, see dialogue below...]]
KA60 V1.1
F..E..D..C..B..A..9..8..7..6..5..4..3..2..1..0
5 01010004 L2003 4 ? V1.1
1 SSC 00000001
2 DZ 00031200 ?
3 NI 19210770 ?
4 SCSI 00000901
5 SYS 00000001
7 01010002 L2004 3 ?? V1.1-B
1 GFX 80000122 ??
ILLEGAL CONFIGURATION
Tests completed.
08-E1,P1
0B-E1,P1
08
CPU08 >>>b/1 dka
VMB V1.0
-DKA0
..
...
SYSBOOT> SET/STARTUP OPA0:
SYSBOOT> SET WRITESYSPARAMS 0
SYSBOOT> CONTINUE
VAX/VMS Version T5.4-4G1 Major version id = 1 Minor version id = 0
%SMP-I-CPUBOOTED, CPU #11 has joined the PRIMARY CPU in multiprocessor operation
waiting to form or join a VAXcluster system
%VAXcluster-I-LOADSECDB, loading the cluster security database
%MSCPLOAD-I-LOADMSCP, loading the MSCP disk server
%CNXMAN, Proposing formation of a VAXcluster
%CNXMAN, Now a VAXcluster member -- system LASER
%CNXMAN, Completing VAXcluster state transition
$ spawn
spawn
%DCL-S-SPAWNED, process SYSTEM_1 spawned
%DCL-S-ATTACHED, terminal now attached to process SYSTEM_1
$ @sys$system:startup
$! Copyright (c) 1990 Digital Equipment Corporation. All rights reserved.
%MSCPLOAD-I-CONFIGSCAN, enabled automatic disk serving
%MSCPLOAD-I-CONFIGSCAN, enabled automatic disk serving
%SET-I-NEWAUDSRV, identification of new audit server process is 2020008C
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 20200091
%NCP-I-NOINFO, No information in database
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 20200095
%JBC-E-NODSTQUE, no such destination queue
Job LICENSE_LOAD (queue LASER$SYSTEM, entry 668) started on LASER$SYSTEM
Job MNT_DISKS (queue LASER$SYSTEM, entry 669) started on LASER$SYSTEM
DAILY SYSTEM 621 Holding until 28-AUG-1992 00:00
DAILY SYSTEM 622 Holding until 28-AUG-1992 00:00
DAILY SYSTEM 623 Holding until 28-AUG-1992 00:00
Job SYS_LOGNAMES (queue LASER$SYSTEM, entry 670) pending
pending status caused by queue busy
Job LSE$STARTUP (queue LASER$SYSTEM, entry 671) pending
pending status caused by queue busy
Job SCA$STARTUP (queue LASER$SYSTEM, entry 672) pending
pending status caused by queue busy
Job PCA$STARTUP (queue LASER$SYSTEM, entry 673) pending
pending status caused by queue busy
Job EMACS_START (queue LASER$SYSTEM, entry 674) pending
pending status caused by queue busy
Job DVLMNT_LOGNAMES (queue LASER$SYSTEM, entry 675) pending
pending status caused by queue busy
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 2020009F
%DECW-W-BADVALUE, SYSGEN parameter WINDOW_SYSTEM is 0, should be 1
These SYSGEN parameters must be reset for DECwindows to start.
You can request that this procedure use AUTOGEN to change these
parameters and reboot your system. If you do not want to reboot
your system now, you can defer these changes. DECwindows will not,
however, start until the SYSGEN parameters are modified.
To run AUTOGEN at a later date, enter the following command:
$ @SYS$UPDATE:AUTOGEN getdata reboot check_feedback
Do you want the system to run AUTOGEN for you [YES]? n
%DECW-F-BADPARAMS, DECwindows cannot start
%SET-I-INTSET, login interactive limit = 64, current interactive value = 0
27-AUG-1992 22:21:24
Process SYSTEM_1 logged out at 27-AUG-1992 22:21:26.30
Accounting information:
Buffered I/O count: 2548 Peak working set size: 965
Direct I/O count: 988 Peak page file size: 4176
Page faults: 22220 Mounted volumes: 0
Charged CPU time: 0 00:01:18.81 Elapsed time: 0 00:03:39.36
%DCL-S-RETURNED, control returned to process STARTUP
$ set default sys$system
$ dir sysuaf.dat
Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
SYSUAF.DAT;1
Total of 1 file.
$ run sys$system:authorize
UAF> modify system /nopassword
%UAF-I-MDFYMSG, user record(s) updated
UAF> exit
%UAF-I-DONEMSG, system authorization file modified
%UAF-I-RDBNOMODS, no modifications made to rights data base
$ reboot
SHUTDOWN -- Perform an Orderly System Shutdown
on node LASER
[rebooting stuff snipped]
Welcome to VAX/VMS T5.4-4G1
Username: SYSTEM
Welcome to VAX/VMS version T5.4-4G1 on node LASER
Last interactive login on Thursday, 27-AUG-1992 22:23
Last non-interactive login on Thursday, 27-AUG-1992 22:31
YAY!!!!!
19 Sep
19 Sep
8:21 p.m.
New subject: Zilog reintroduces enhanced Z80!
Hi all,
That eZ80 supposed to be 4x faster than original z80. Cool, nice to
see a old dog with new tricks pop up again.
It's on the slashdot.org, I saw it moments ago.
Wizard
17 Sep
17 Sep
4:10 a.m.
and it won't let me do the usual security
bypassing stuff. When I try the
uafalternate=1 thing, it stops the initialization with a file
specification error and when I try the startup-via-opa0: trick, there are
That means you didn't follow the full porocedure or someone removed the
alternate UAF. Likely the first case.
no commands available (i.e. SPAWN isn't a valid
command and
@sys$system:startup isn't found). What can I do? If I let it boot
normally to the console, it'll let me try to log in, but guessing the
If the system boots... uaf alternate or not spawn should work.
More than likely you didn't set one r more of teh correct condidtions
correctly before boot or after boot.
The system password if UAFalternate is correctly invoked in two CRs.
Allison
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