<Do you mean that the various systems that used the 37-pin D-sub actually <used the same pinout? I was of the impression that there was no standard <for it (before the IBM PC created a defacto standard in 1981), so I <assumed that the IBM, DEC, and Xerox stuff probably used entirely unrelate <pinouts. They all used he same connector... none wired it the same that I know of. Allison