15 May
2011
15 May
'11
2:14 p.m.
I don't, I ordered the items at the end of January ...
You can read the story in one of the earlier messages.
You can't blame him for customs.
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If the items arrive in good order I'll of cause will send him the by
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money.
I'll keep you people posted.
-Rik
At last I recieved my items after they were held in customs ..
And of cause I payed them..
-Rik
15 May
15 May
2:25 p.m.
Yes, I've been part of the thread: I'm one of the folks who has had many good
transactions with this seller.
Unlike the last guy I dealt with: I sent him a private email telling him I was
disappointed with the condition of his "nice" item (and his photos are from
stock, not representative), and he was incredibly nasty in his response. Ooh, I have lots
of good feedback, he says. Well, now he has some bad feedback, not over the product
(which was oversold) but his crappy attitude.... Maybe everyone else was happy, but
I'm not. Maybe the rest of us are happy with Larry, but you're not.
I don't know what happened with your transaction, but I and a lot of other folks have
had good experience with this guy. -- Ian
________________________________________
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rik
Bos [hp-fix at xs4all.nl]
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 2:14 PM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: Bad ebay experiance with ebay seller
I don't, I ordered the items at the end of January ...
You can read the story in one of the earlier messages.
You can't blame him for customs.
________________________________________
Your item was processed through and left our SAN
JOSE, CA 95101 facility
on
April 18, 2011 at 11:27 pm. The item is currently
in transit to the
destination.
Information, if available, is updated
periodically throughout the day.
Please
check again later.
If the items arrive in good order I'll of cause will send him the by
paypal
refunded
money.
I'll keep you people posted.
-Rik
At last I recieved my items after they were held in customs ..
And of cause I payed them..
-Rik
9:10 p.m.
Hi
I bought a board from him. His responce to email was
slow and I did a will call on the board. The board was in
good condition and functional. He has quite a pile of
HP stuff that seems to be getting older day by day.
I had otherwise a good experience with him.
As for Ian's problem, he has the right to file a complaint
with ebay. It is not OK to use another photo unless
it states so on the photo that it is not the exact item.
He has the right to a partial refund or money back.
I've gotten to the point that I have no problem filing
bad feedback if I find anything poorly done. It is
what feedback is about. Seller should know better
than to pack poorly or misrepresent items.
Dwight
From: IanK at vulcan.com
Yes, I've been part of the thread: I'm one of the folks who has had many good
transactions with this seller.
Unlike the last guy I dealt with: I sent him a private email telling him I was
disappointed with the condition of his "nice" item (and his photos are from
stock, not representative), and he was incredibly nasty in his response. Ooh, I have lots
of good feedback, he says. Well, now he has some bad feedback, not over the product (which
was oversold) but his crappy attitude.... Maybe everyone else was happy, but I'm not.
Maybe the rest of us are happy with Larry, but you're not.
I don't know what happened with your transaction, but I and a lot of other folks have
had good experience with this guy. -- Ian
________________________________________
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
Rik Bos [hp-fix at xs4all.nl]
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 2:14 PM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: Bad ebay experiance with ebay seller
I don't, I ordered the items at the end of January ...
You can read the story in one of the earlier messages.
You can't blame him for customs.
________________________________________
Your item was processed through and left our SAN
JOSE, CA 95101 facility
on
April 18, 2011 at 11:27 pm. The item is currently
in transit to the
destination.
Information, if available, is updated
periodically throughout the day.
Please
check again later.
If the items arrive in good order I'll of cause will send him the by
paypal
refunded
money.
I'll keep you people posted.
-Rik
At last I recieved my items after they were held in customs ..
And of cause I payed them..
-Rik
10:01 p.m.
BTW, after the last email salvo from the unpleasant person I describe below I've
decided to post his eBay ID: fyrcomltd1. He's an unbelievably obnoxious person who
responded to a polite statement questioning his listing with a sarcastic put-down - and
went downhill from there. I'm not going to put the effort into a formal eBay
complaint for a $25 item, and I can't believe the effort he's put in to insulting
me over... a $25 item.
The item? I got nostalgic and decided to pick up a Motorola HT-220 radio. I used to work
on these years ago and, for $25, it seemed like fun to buy one; I figured I might test for
a new amateur ticket so I can play with the thing. It was described as "nice"
and accompanied by some fuzzy photos (which I now see he uses repeatedly in listings for
more units he has to sell). Actually, this unit is filthy, lacks a nameplate and has some
sort of ID number scratched into its face. The battery compartment looks like something
died in there (i.e. I'm going to take step to clean out what looks like chemical
corrosion). Supposedly it's been tested in the 2m ham band but, given the lack of
honesty regarding the rest of its presentation, I'll believe that when I see it. OK,
it's only $25, and if he'd been honest about its physical condition I would have
nothing else to say. But this unit is not "nice" by any stretch. Having been
involved with acquisition of far older electronic artifacts for many years, I think I can
distinguish "nice for its age" from "dug out from under a pile of rotting
crap in someone's basement."
If he'd just said, "sorry," that would have been the end of it. Instead,
he's taken the time to send more than one snotty, hateful, content-free email.
While the increasing greed of eBay itself does indeed put me off, it's experiences
like this that really discourage me from using this forum for purchases. -- Ian
________________________________________
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
dwight elvey [dkelvey at hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 9:10 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: Bad ebay experiance with ebay seller
Hi
I bought a board from him. His responce to email was
slow and I did a will call on the board. The board was in
good condition and functional. He has quite a pile of
HP stuff that seems to be getting older day by day.
I had otherwise a good experience with him.
As for Ian's problem, he has the right to file a complaint
with ebay. It is not OK to use another photo unless
it states so on the photo that it is not the exact item.
He has the right to a partial refund or money back.
I've gotten to the point that I have no problem filing
bad feedback if I find anything poorly done. It is
what feedback is about. Seller should know better
than to pack poorly or misrepresent items.
Dwight
From: IanK at vulcan.com
Yes, I've been part of the thread: I'm one of the folks who has had many good
transactions with this seller.
Unlike the last guy I dealt with: I sent him a private email telling him I was
disappointed with the condition of his "nice" item (and his photos are from
stock, not representative), and he was incredibly nasty in his response. Ooh, I have lots
of good feedback, he says. Well, now he has some bad feedback, not over the product (which
was oversold) but his crappy attitude.... Maybe everyone else was happy, but I'm not.
Maybe the rest of us are happy with Larry, but you're not.
I don't know what happened with your transaction, but I and a lot of other folks have
had good experience with this guy. -- Ian
________________________________________
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
Rik Bos [hp-fix at xs4all.nl]
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 2:14 PM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: Bad ebay experiance with ebay seller
I don't, I ordered the items at the end of January ...
You can read the story in one of the earlier messages.
You can't blame him for customs.
________________________________________
Your item was processed through and left our SAN
JOSE, CA 95101 facility
on
April 18, 2011 at 11:27 pm. The item is currently
in transit to the
destination.
Information, if available, is updated
periodically throughout the day.
Please
check again later.
If the items arrive in good order I'll of cause will send him the by
paypal
refunded
money.
I'll keep you people posted.
-Rik
At last I recieved my items after they were held in customs ..
And of cause I payed them..
-Rik
10:53 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ian King
Sent: 16 May 2011 06:02
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: Bad ebay experiance with ebay seller
BTW, after the last email salvo from the unpleasant person I describe
below
I've decided to post his eBay ID: fyrcomltd1.
He's an unbelievably
obnoxious
person who responded to a polite statement questioning
his listing with a
sarcastic put-down - and went downhill from there. I'm not going to put
the
effort into a formal eBay complaint for a $25 item,
and I can't believe
the
effort he's put in to insulting me over... a $25
item.
I really think you should put in a complaint, it does not matter how much or
little the item cost, people have no right to behave in this manner and
should be taken to account for it.
Regards
Rob
16 May
16 May
11:13 a.m.
I really think you should put in a complaint, it does not matter how much or
little the item cost, people have no right to behave in this manner and
should be taken to account for it.
I would agree. If the seller is going to behave in this way over a $25
item, what's he going to be like with a much more expensive item?
-tony
11:26 a.m.
Unlike the last guy I dealt with: I sent him a private
email telling him I =
was disappointed with the condition of his "nice" item (and his photos are =
from stock, not representative), and he was incredibly nasty in his respons=
e. Ooh, I have lots of good feedback, he says. Well, now he has some bad f=
eedback, not over the product (which was oversold) but his crappy attitude.=
... Maybe everyone else was happy, but I'm not. Maybe the rest of us are h=
appy with Larry, but you're not. =20
There are a couple of things that I would 'expect' of any seller, whether
on E-bay or not.
Firstly, the description should be accurate. Saying something is 'nice'
when it's totally beat-up is not 'accurate'. Now, I (and I guess eveyone
else here) try to be reasoanble about this. I know that I am buying a
device that (in many cases) left the factory 30-40 years ago. I do _NOT_
expect it to look brand new. Nor do I expect it to work (things do fail
with time). But if I buy a loose PCB and it's covered in corrosion, etc,
then that's not 'nice'. Sometimes things do exceed my expectations. I
bought a parallel port board for one of my HP machines, it was only a few
pouinds on E-bay. I expected an ex-equipment board. What I got was a
brand new one, in HP anti-static bag, not screatches on the edge fingers
with the manual and stickly labels. Yes, I was very happy.
Secondly, IMHO the makrk of a good seller is not whether or not things
go wrong, becuaseproblems can heppen to anyoen, and it may well not be
the sellers fault. It's how the behave when things go wrong, are they
prepared to work with the buyer to put things right. Of course the buyer
has to be reasonable about it too. A copule of examples, one on E-bay the
other not. I bouigth an HP DAC box from an E-bay seller and it appears to
be lost in shipping (the tracking information said it had left the USA
but not arrived in the UK). The seller offered me a refund after a
sensible time, but I said that hte money was much less useful to me than
the unit, and that as they seemed ot be a surplus dealer who was likely
to get another one sometime, I was happy to let them keep the money and
when they got anoither unit, they could send me that one. They were happy
with this. A couple of days later, the shipping company found the
original parcel and it arrived -- in great condition. So of course I gave
them good feednack. The otehr was a company in England who specialise in
model engineering books -- Camden Miniature Steam Services. I oreders
some books fromthem, and when they came one of them was the wrong book.
The title was identical I think (or very similar), but the author wasn't,
and I'd already got that one. Anyway, I phoned them up, they agreed it
was a mistake and said that I should send the incorrect book abck and
they'd send me the right one. And they did -- very promptly. Needless to
say I've ordered from them again, and wil lrecomend them for such books.
Fortunately, most of the E-bay sellers I've dealt with have been honest
and helpful.
-tony
17 May
17 May
10:50 a.m.
New subject: cleaning out collection
Hi,
Making room in my basement. I have the following:
three 5.25 Full Height Dec hard drives probably from microvax
BA123 with 4 disks and a 3104, 7168, 7169, 7546, 7504, 7606, 7609, 7609
two DSD/Qualogy 880
10 or so Maxtor drives (RD52, RD53 size?)
spare 8 inch winchester for the DSD boxes
BA11 with some boards
a 16 x 6 backplane full of qbus boards
two more smaller backplanes with some qbus boards.
I'm off to Dayton, but when I return, this stuff needs to be gone by the
end of the month. First come, first served, FREE, pickup only.
Joe
11:51 a.m.
New subject: cleaning out collection
And you're located where?
-----Original Message-----
From: trash3 at splab.cas.neu.edu
Sent: Tue, 17 May 2011 13:50:30 -0400
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: cleaning out collection
Hi,
Making room in my basement. I have the following:
three 5.25 Full Height Dec hard drives probably from microvax
BA123 with 4 disks and a 3104, 7168, 7169, 7546, 7504, 7606, 7609, 7609
two DSD/Qualogy 880
10 or so Maxtor drives (RD52, RD53 size?)
spare 8 inch winchester for the DSD boxes
BA11 with some boards
a 16 x 6 backplane full of qbus boards
two more smaller backplanes with some qbus boards.
I'm off to Dayton, but when I return, this stuff needs to be gone by the
end of the month. First come, first served, FREE, pickup only.
Joe
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1:32 p.m.
New subject: cleaning out collection
Hi, Joe.
would you mind sending one of the QBUS Backplanes over the pond to
europe? I could need this quite good.
Regards, Wolfgang
--
Wolfgang Eichberger - OE5EWL
Operating System Collector
Blog: 5ewl.blogspot.com
Homepage: www.eichberger.org
2011/5/17 Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com>:
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 1:51 PM, N0body H0me
<n0body.h0me at inbox.com> wrote:
And you're located where?
Guessing Boston area, from the neu.edu address.
3:32 p.m.
New subject: cleaning out collection
Hi Joe,
Anything left. You'll be driving right by me. I am in western NY near Buffalo.
I can meet you on the thruway.. Interested on whatever may be left.
Thanks,
Brian.
________________________________
From: joe heck <trash3 at splab.cas.neu.edu>
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 1:50:30 PM
Subject: cleaning out collection
Hi,
Making room in my basement. I have the following:
three 5.25 Full Height Dec hard drives probably from microvax
BA123 with 4 disks and a 3104, 7168, 7169, 7546, 7504, 7606, 7609, 7609
two DSD/Qualogy 880
10 or so Maxtor drives (RD52, RD53 size?)
spare 8 inch winchester for the DSD boxes
BA11 with some boards
a 16 x 6 backplane full of qbus boards
two more smaller backplanes with some qbus boards.
I'm off to Dayton, but when I return, this stuff needs to be gone by the end of
the month. First come, first served, FREE, pickup only.
Joe
12:48 p.m.
New subject: cleaning out collection, update
Sorry I forgot. I am in Eastern MA, driving to Dayton. Might have room
for some stuff. It's a long drive, I don't want to stray too much from
the beaten path, or stop too long anywhere. We'll be going out the NY
thruway, and along the lakes, if I remember. If there is too much
effort involved to bring stuff, it'll cost. However, I already promised
(a loonng time ago) Patrick to give him some boards, so I'm dragging
some stuff already. Much better to grab all the stuff at my house, one
big lot, but I'll consider alternatives.
Joe
1:54 p.m.
New subject: cleaning out collection, update
Hi all,
Thanks for the quick responses.
So far, the list FIFO is
William Donzelli
Dave McGuire
Patrick Finnegan
Paul Anderson
Nobody home
Jason T
Jerome Fine
I'll start there.
Joe
11:48 p.m.
New subject: Cleaning out shop
Hi all
Because of retirement, I'm starting to clean out my stock for peanuts as I
hate seeing good parts being scrapped.
How about e.g. the intestines of a floppy conversion system for about 800
(mostly european) formats? Size ranges from 3.5" to 8"
The controllers come from SMS (512 and 82xx). Includes software
/Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Heck" <joeheck at splab.cas.neu.edu>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:54 PM
Subject: cleaning out collection, update
Hi all,
Thanks for the quick responses.
So far, the list FIFO is
William Donzelli
Dave McGuire
Patrick Finnegan
Paul Anderson
Nobody home
Jason T
Jerome Fine
I'll start there.
Joe
2:45 p.m.
New subject: cleaning out collection, update
Hi all,
Thanks for the quick responses.
So far, the list FIFO is
William Donzelli
Dave McGuire
Patrick Finnegan
Paul Anderson
Nobody home
Jason T
Jerome Fine
I'll start there.
Joe
25 May
25 May
8:39 a.m.
New subject: cleaning out collection - manuals and books this time
Hi all again,
Before I forget, I am in Eastern MA, Wrentham, the stuff is pick up
only. Since it is already packed, it is all or nothing.
I have about 20 shelf-feet of regular size manuals and docs, including
but not limited to:
VMS, RT11 and TSX+
VAX system and options
U.S. system price lists
Misc DEC manuals, especially QBus hardware
RSX
Networking Products catalogs
Spares- Self Maintenance catalogs
hardware and software option/module catalogs
VMS Decnet +
VAX FMS
11-MMS
(NON regular size, ie, small):
VMS Mini doc set
Dilog, emulex, sigma, fuji and DTC catalogs and docs
In addition I have about another 8 shelf-feet or so of the smaller
handbooks, and mini manuals for RT11 and RSX, even a Unix distribution
box (DEC style)
All the big stuff is packed, I'll be packing the smaller stuff today.
thanks
Joe Heck
29 Jun
29 Jun
8:16 p.m.
New subject: Fluke 1722A/1752A Service Manual available
FCFS, for the cost of shipping it.
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