On Sunday 16 July 2006 19:47, Roy J. Tellason wrote: A TS-806 is a multi-user computer that could run things like MMMOST to connect to TS-800 diskless terminals. A TS-806C is a shared tape drive. All it has is a tape drive, a Z80 board with some firmware (it doesn't boot anything), 64k ram, and what are probably a pair of 15-pin RS422 ports to connect back to the hosts. Yea, I've got one too. had a crashed hdd, and its tape drive needs some work (was like that when Don sent it to me). Nope. The TS-801 is a desktop machine with a pair of full-height floppies that look like Apple Disk II units or the FH floppies in an IBM PC (or PC/XT). I took a couple pictures and put them up here... http://computer-refuge.org/compcollect/televideo/ts801 (and ts806c) Note: the -s versions are low res versions of the non -s versions. Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCAC --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org

On Monday 17 July 2006 01:34, Roy J. Tellason wrote: This one has a tape stuck in it (unlabelled), and the roller in the drive has turned to goo, which I now have to repair, and clean the goo off the tape. At least I know that it uses DC600A cartridges. Maybe I'll get lucky, and there'll be something useful (software) on the tape. It's the same Tandon TM 100-2A that IBM shipped in PCs and PC/XTs. At least there's nothing (besides the EPROM, which is socketed) that is terribly complex. Actually, I might pull the rom, and dump it while I'm at work tomorrow... I'm tempted to power one of the TS-801's up and just see what comes out the "terminal" port. (perhaps after checking out the power supply first :) Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCAC --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org

On Monday 17 July 2006 02:06 am, Patrick Finnegan wrote: And DC300XL, and several others. I have a box around here someplace... The unit I had came out of a dental practice, so there wasn't much interesting there. I don't remember what application software they were running, but the OS was "mmmost". I remember hearing that those machines also came with TurboDOS at that time and I think that might have been more interesting to play with. Got a book on that around somewhere, too. I never did find any docs on mmmost. I don't remember how at this point, but I managed to get a few of the ordinary utilities I was using into the box at that point in time, and some of them gave very bizarre results -- nsweep for example showing a file multiple times, because it was in the directory structure under several "users". One of these days I'd like to get more of a handle on some of those CP/M variants and how they did what they did. <...> That's what I thought but I wasn't sure. The name Tandon came to mind, for sure. This sort of talk in here has me wondering from time to time how the power supplies in some of my older gear are likely to be doing.... -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin

On Tuesday 18 July 2006 01:11, Patrick Finnegan wrote: Thanks to help from Jerry, I now have it booting. For the record, the Televideo TS-801 does boot the same image as the TS-802 (the 802 is probably just an 801 packaged in the same case as a Televideo terminal). ------------------------------------------------- System IPL from Floppy disk in progress TELEVIDEO SYSTEM TS-802 V2.1 62k CP/M vers. 2.2 A>dir A: MOVCPM COM : ED COM : STAT COM : BIOS ASM A: DUMP ASM : LT31 COM : PIP COM : ASM COM A: D COM : CBIOS ASM : SYSGEN COM : EDFILE DOC A: NSWP COM : SUBMIT COM : DDT COM : COPYDISK COM A: DEBLOCK ASM : FORMAT COM : XSUB COM : LOAD COM A: DUMP COM : EDFILE COM A> ------------------------------------------------- Since this machine seems to be completely undocumented/unknown (on the web anyhow), I guess it's time to write some... Is there any chance that someone has some user or system documentation for the TS-801 or TS-802 that they could make available to me somehow? It'd be nice too if I could get a copy of whatever software Televideo usually shipped with these machines; my research shows that they had a software suite called TeleSolutions, and some other things that they shipped with the machines. Also, a copy of MMMOST or one of their other multi-user O/S's might be neat to play with... Pat -- Purdue University Research Computing --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org

On Wednesday 19 July 2006 16:02, Chuck Guzis wrote: The 803's? Yes, and they did it for the TPC-I also ("Televideo Portable Computer")... they also had a TPC-II which was an 8088-based system in the same case, which I had when I was growing up as a kid. They're both similar in formfactor to a Compaq "Portable" luggable, and IIRC had a 9" green CRT. The TPC-II had a CGA-compatible video interface (with a composite video jack on the back if you wanted to have color). The TS-801 and TS-802 (well, and TS-806 and TS-816) were character-based CP/M boxes, unlike the 803 and TPC-I, which had graphics capabilities. Televideo had some kick-ass machines back in the day, it's a shame that they didn't catch on very widely. Pat -- Purdue University Research Computing --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org

On Monday 17 July 2006 02:12, Chuck Guzis wrote: I'm not certain, but I'd be happy to try it and find out. There were some major differences between systems, though... the TS-803 and 802 had a built-in display and keyboard, where the TS-801 requires an external RS-232 serial terminal. So I'm guessing that it'll end up not being compatible enough. Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCAC --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org