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<GRIN> Not nearly as bad as a BSOD. That kills your box. OS/2 will just display the error and allow you to proceed. A minor trap like 3175 described below does not cause your system to turn to jello. Though if OS/2 gives you a BLACK Screen of Death (Trap 000D,000E...), it is really really dead -- "Please manually transcribe this 4k screen of Hex and text and call IBM". Like your gonna. ;-0 OS/2 has allways had a neato replacement (diagnostic) kernel which allows terminals to access the system even if it is crashed. I have never used it. OS/2's Help facility documents the System, not just the Operating System. The documentation that ships on the OS/2 install cd is beyond compare in the industry. IMHO, no other operating system is as well documented. Notice I didn't say 'complete' because Linux has the most complete but it's docs are dense and scattered. The OS/2 documentation is so good, so full, and so beautifully presented I'd have to show it to you for you to believe it. Graphics, screen dumps, all fully indexed and searchable. If you print a 'book' such as the 'Reference and Commands' text, it prints as a rather large (600+ page) book - complete to the cover, copywrite info, page numbers, headers and footers, index, everything. Like PDF but better and in color, these documents are perfect on the screen. Printing them is just a waste of paper but if you do, the printed document comes out ready for binding. Warp 4 ships with more than twenty such books on the install cd. The docs are so complete, if you were the Man From Mars or just an intelligent computer illiterate, you could go from learning how to use a mouse to a WAN-Guru-who-programs in Java, Rex, Visual C++, and Visual Basic without ever leaving the help facility. I owe my career to OS/2. After a four year U.S. Navy imposed 'computer hiatus' from 87' to 91', I worked as a silkcreen printer then got a tech job with a Brazillian-owned company in Miami. I discovered OS/2 2.0 and thought it was too big and slow on my 4mb 386sx. Later I got a 486 with 24mb ram and OS/2 2.11. The rest is history. I went from Atari 8-bit and CP/M character-oriented boxes to the OS/2 GUI and CLI. Just like that. I might have gone Amiga but IBM got thier gui technology from Commodore..... OS/2 2.xx and Warp never has made me much money directly, but the experience and knowlege I gained from it make it a simple trick to network other operating systems. From X.25, TCP/IP, Netbios, Banyan, to you name it, Warp will interoperate with a rock or a rocketship and will clearly explain the hows and whys of doing it. Since my experience with OS/2 began in 92'/93', I've discovered IBM to be astonishgly anal retentive. Everything about OS/2 is thorough to the n'th degree. Even things that really don't matter. I really wish the operating system market hadn't turned so sour. We can blame MS and rightly do so, but I.B.M. didn't do thier part by staying in the game long enough for the courts to put things right. ******************************************************************************************* OS/2 Command Interpreter version 4.5 [C:\]help sys3175 SYS3175: A program in this session encountered a problem and cannot continue. EXPLANATION: An access violation exception occurred and was generated when an attempt was made either to load or store data in an inaccessible location or to execute an inaccessible instruction. This exception corresponds to both the Intel 80386 processor general protection fault (#13), caused by an invalid access attempt, and the page fault (#14), caused by an attempt to access an uncommitted page or a page with incorrect attributes for the desired operation. ACTION: If you purchased this program, contact the supplier of the program. If you are the developer of this program, refer to the information in the register. [C:\] ******************************************************************************************* -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey S. Worley President Complete Computer Services, Inc. 30 Greenwood Rd. Asheville, NC 28803 828-277-5959 THETechnoid(a)home.com -----------------------------------------------------------

In &lt;39DE5AE5.B6A03202(a)timharrison.com&gt;om>, on 10/11/00 at 02:21 AM, Tim Harrison &lt;harrison(a)timharrison.com&gt; said: Usually hardware. I remember ten or twelve in the last five years and most were hardware or something stupid I did. That is a total for ten machines. I think two or three of those traps were unexplainable. I once did report via the web submission form. In one day, they called me and said that the DualStore backup product driver I was running would not work on a Networked Warp4 machine With a Floppytapedrive. Now that is pretty cool. I wanted the program to run but had just upgraded from Connect. They gave me the right answer even if it wasn't the one I wanted to hear. It is the only time I have ever been forced to change software or hardware on OS/2 in seven years. I've upgraded but that has been by choice. :-) It is the OS2KRNLD file. Don't recall if it ships with the system or is a download, but it is freely available. The symbol file ships with the os for the diagnostic kernel for sure. It is OS2KRNLD.SYM in the \os2\pdpsi\pmdf\warp4 directory. I doubt you are stupid or even remarkably so. Regards, Jeff -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey S. Worley President Complete Computer Services, Inc. 30 Greenwood Rd. Asheville, NC 28803 828-277-5959 THETechnoid(a)home.com -----------------------------------------------------------