To Marvin and Mail List... You both make correct deductions... I like this list, and have a lot more fun conversing about Model I TRS-80's and Tandon Floppy Drives than wasting time trying to answer drivel, point by point. And I want to remain welcome on this interesting list. So, the troll can say or do whatever he likes. Being a troll, I can now ascribe any posts from under the bridge to it's proper value. There's been some news on the Amiga Emulation front. It seems that on http://www.umilator.com , Bernd Meyer may relent on his decision never to release Umilator (A 68k Amiga Emulator that runs on a Linux Kernal using some technology Bernd created for UAE-JIT, and some new stuff... Supposedly the fastest and most compatible emulator ever written.). He requires a certain number of people to commit to buying it, as there will be some legal battles with the people who claim to own Amithlon, which is a similar project that Bernd wrote code for. It seems that one person has decided he is the founder and creator of the software (but only contributed some minor code that by all reports is buggy and feature incomplete), and the distributor also claims to own the software as well. So far, nobody has been able to substantiate either paries claims, and Bernie will have to defend his right to market a product that shares little common code (some of the code is GPL, so Bernie is free and clear to use it. And unlike the other parties, Bernie has a legal licence from Amiga to include their IP in his product.), doesn't use the same name, and has significant rewritten code and new features. But intimidation and threats by these parties have kept Bernie from releasing it, as he doesn't have the financial depth to defend a suit in Germany from Australia. Nor, the desire to be put through all the stress of a suit. I guess, he's changed his mind about the stress. And decided that if the project could generate enough money, he'd defend his rights to market it on principle. So, if you want to see Bernie be rewarded for his excellent work, and people who want to keep his product from ever seeing the light of day get their due for their selfishness, go take a look and register in the poll for people willing to buy the product once available. Supposedly it's done and can be released. Bernie is just waiting for enough committed buyers so he can be sure he won't lose his shirt with the court costs when all the frivolous suits get filed. I posted that not only would I buy it, I'd also contribute to a legal defense fund. Sorry for the long message, hope this of more interest to the list than troll droppings.. Regards, Al Hartman (Macintosh Emulation List Host) http://www.topica.com/lists/MacEmuList My Homepage http://www.geocities.com/alhartman Enlightenment means taking full responsibility for your life. - William Blake