On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Will Jennings wrote: Hmmm, so even if it's made lighter, it's still going to be rather bulky. I just remembered how large some system 36s are. Wouldn't be be lighter with the boards, power supply, etc. removed? ...ok, well, removing the heavy power supply in pieces, that is. How large is this transformer? I'm guessing that it must be much larger, and heavier, than the ones in my 11/34, 11/44, etc. and possibly not easy to extract if the frame is welded together. :-( There must be a better solution... although that did sound like a very good idea. Perhaps it will help if you try strapping the next one you collect onto the forklift. :-) Well, there's always the attachment used to pick up bales of hay... it probably shouldn't slip off that once you spear the S/36 with it. Ok, just kidding, I'm not into computer demolition! ;-) -- R. D. Davis rdd(a)perqlogic.com http://www.perqlogic.com/rdd 410-744-4900