28 Oct
1998
28 Oct
'98
5:25 a.m.
> When I typed "system disk" I meant one
> with an appropriate collection of utilities, which with code bloat
> can be hard to fit on a 720k disk -- since "edit" needs "?basic"
etc.
Get the GNU DOS port of vi - has the benefit of being a standard, very
powerful, reliable and takes up 120KB or so (OK, that's a lot more than
ideal for an editor, but at least you don't need all the extra garbage
that you have to have with standard MS-DOS 'edit') - of course, if
you've never used vi before, you're gonna hate it :)
(not wanting to kick off an off-topic thread in light of the current
'problems' on this list, anyone know how to get MS exchange client 4 to
do the auto-include of the '>' quote chars above? I'm sick of having to
do it by hand! Email privately, please! :)
cheers
Jules
28 Oct
28 Oct
7:34 a.m.
Julian Richardson wrote:
I was using vi before I was using edlin -- side effect of being a
Radio Shack tech support type when Xenix showed up before MS-DOS.
(And the MKS vi port worked great on the Tandy 2000). The advice
was for somebody wanting functional floppies for a DG-1, I don't
assume everybody has my taste in utilities -- and while I have
the GNU vi for DOS, I hardly ever use it, since I only run DOS
myself in an emulator under Linux -- so I use GNU vi in a proper
environment most of the time, and it ain't the DOS port.
And yes, I'd rather forgotten about the mode command under MS-DOS
2.11 being so variable (dead brain cells) -- and I suspect that a
DG-1 specific copy would be beneficial.
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> When I typed "system disk" I meant
one
> with an appropriate collection of utilities, which with code bloat
> can be hard to fit on a 720k disk -- since "edit" needs "?basic"
etc.
Get the GNU DOS port of vi - has the benefit of being a standard, very
powerful, reliable and takes up 120KB or so (OK, that's a lot more than
ideal for an editor, but at least you don't need all the extra garbage
that you have to have with standard MS-DOS 'edit') - of course, if
you've never used vi before, you're gonna hate it :) 
8:11 a.m.
On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Julian Richardson wrote:
I've got what I think is an even better DOS version of vi. Since it was
made in 1989 its almost on topic.
The cool thing about this is that its only 44K. It's fast. And it takes
advantage of the IBM keyboard, allowing you to use the arrow keys and the
cursor control keys (home, end, pgup, pgdn), plus delete and insert.
Insert maps to 'i', delete maps to 'x'. And when you use these special
keys (arrows, insert, delete) it automatically puts you back in 'escape'
mode so you don't have to manually press escape to exit from insert mode.
I'll e-mail it to anyone who wants it. I've been using it since the early
90s and make it part of my standard install on my DOS machines.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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> When I
typed "system disk" I meant one
> with an appropriate collection of utilities, which with code bloat
> can be hard to fit on a 720k disk -- since "edit" needs "?basic"
etc.
Get the GNU DOS port of vi - has the benefit of being a standard, very
powerful, reliable and takes up 120KB or so (OK, that's a lot more than
ideal for an editor, but at least you don't need all the extra garbage
that you have to have with standard MS-DOS 'edit') - of course, if
you've never used vi before, you're gonna hate it :) 
8:26 a.m.
I've got what I think is an even better DOS
version of vi. Since it was
made in 1989 its almost on topic.
I'll e-mail it to anyone who wants it. I've
been using it since the early
90s and make it part of my standard install on my DOS machines.
That sounds interesting. Could you send a copy?
BTW, I renewed the SWAC manual.
-- Derek
8:27 a.m.
oops, that was supposed to go to Sam only.
ELM needs a "reply to sender" key. It could also use a "process the
bounce
report to recover the original message which I erased" key too, while we're
at it. :)
-- Derek
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