17 Oct
2012
17 Oct
'12
3:36 a.m.
Hi,
I'd like to play with the OASIS operating system for the Altos 5-15
(downloaded from Dave's site). After logging in I get the '>' prompt.
Apparently, they use some kind of stack within their CLI as I can use it
as an RPN calculator (just like FORTH in OpenBoot environments). The usual
candidates like DIR, CAT etc. aren't recognized, LIST gives 'File name
missing', LIST * gives 'File extenstion missing', and LIST *.* gives,
well, nothing.
So, does anybody have (preferrably a scan of) the OASIS user's manual?
Christian
17 Oct
17 Oct
8:22 a.m.
On 10/17/12 3:36 AM, Christian Corti wrote:
So, does anybody have (preferrably a scan of) the
OASIS user's manual?
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/phaseOneSystems/oasis/
18 Oct
18 Oct
1:51 a.m.
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012, Al Kossow wrote:
Oh, thanks!
But one has to know that you have to look for Phase One Systems and not
for Altos... well, Wikipedia knows that, and I must have missed the
obvious.
BTW, for those who don't know the system account names and passwords,
here's what I have discovered from the disk image:
Username Password
--------------------------------
SYSTEM ALTOS515
SONETT3 SAABER
TERMINO WYSEMAN
Christian
So, does
anybody have (preferrably a scan of) the OASIS user's manual?
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/phaseOneSystems/oasis/
3 a.m.
On Thu, 18 Oct 2012, Christian Corti wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012, Al Kossow wrote:
Oh, thanks!
But one has to know that you have to look for Phase One Systems and not for
Altos... well, Wikipedia knows that, and I must have missed the obvious.
It seems that the most important manual, the System Reference Manual, is
missing. I think that this manual should be part of the Altos document
set.
Christian
3:29 a.m.
Yes. All the Oasis manuals stored in Bitsavers have a reference in
their first pages to this manual.
My first contact with the Oasis discs was through Perter Schorn's website:
http://www.schorn.ch/altair.html
... In this sub-page:
http://www.schorn.ch/altair_5.php
... you can access diverse disk images for Z80 systems, prepared to
run under SIMH. One of them is OASIS Multiuser Version for Vector
Graphic:
http://www.schorn.ch/cpm/zip/oasis.zip
I remember to read some instructions about the installation and
running of this OASIS version a couple of years ago when I installed
it under my Z80 simulator. But I can't remember where... perhaps in
comp.os.cpm:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/comp.os.cpm
Regards
Sergio
2012/10/18 Christian Corti <cc at informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2012, Christian Corti wrote:
It seems that the most important manual, the System Reference Manual, is
missing. I think that this manual should be part of the Altos document set.
17 Oct
17 Oct
8:37 a.m.
Looking at the disk image located at
http://www.cpm80.com/download/oasis56.td0
Some possible commands look like:
CREATE
DEBUG
LOGOFF
PEEK
SCRIPT
RENAME
SECTOR
LOGON
OWNERCHG
PATCH
SEEK
SET
FORCE
RECEIVE
STOP
KILL
SHOW
SYSGEN
ERASE
MSG
TEXTEDIT
ASSIGN
BACKUP
CRT
MAILBOX
SHARE
SPOOLER
ARCHIVE
EDIT
ERRMSG
START
ACCOUNT
LINK
MEMTEST
REPAIR
LIST
RUN
RUN2
ATTACH
CHANGE
DUMPDISK
INTELHEX
LOAD
INITDISK
STATE
TERMINAL
PASSWORD
RECOVER
FILELIST <<<<< Maybe this is what you want?
FILT8080
MACRO
RESTORE
And, of course, the ubiquitous
HELP
On 10/17/2012 5:36 AM, Christian Corti wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to play with the OASIS operating system for the Altos 5-15
(downloaded from Dave's site). After logging in I get the '>' prompt.
Apparently, they use some kind of stack within their CLI as I can use it
as an RPN calculator (just like FORTH in OpenBoot environments). The
usual candidates like DIR, CAT etc. aren't recognized, LIST gives 'File
name missing', LIST * gives 'File extenstion missing', and LIST *.*
gives, well, nothing.
So, does anybody have (preferrably a scan of) the OASIS user's manual?
Christian
8:59 a.m.
New subject: Speaking of unusual 8080/Z80 Operating systems: MARC
Speaking of interesting 8080/z80 operating systems, anyone out there on
the list besides me (and the two people I mention below) ever play with
Ed Ziemba's MARC operating system (very Unix like, for the 8080 - but
never published, because Ed Ziemba passed away in an unfortunate
snorkeling accident)
At least two other people had some access do it, those being Leor Zolman
(BDS C, in which MARC was written - http://www.bdsoft.com/about.html)
and one Lauren Weinstein, DBA Vortex Technology -- who might be (it
seems very likely) this guy: http://lauren.vortex.com/.
I still have some copies (the latest being the CP/M hosted/"parasitic"
boot version B.9 and root file system B.3), and some paper documentation.
I am sending Lauren a note and see what he might know about MARC's
status, Intellectual Property wise or if he knows of any way it might be
released without having to trespass on the copyright, which presumably
would exist for 70 years after Ed Ziemba's passing.
Jay Jaeger
The Computer Collection
On 10/17/2012 5:36 AM, Christian Corti wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to play with the OASIS operating system for the Altos 5-15
(downloaded from Dave's site). After logging in I get the '>' prompt.
Apparently, they use some kind of stack within their CLI as I can use it
as an RPN calculator (just like FORTH in OpenBoot environments). The
usual candidates like DIR, CAT etc. aren't recognized, LIST gives 'File
name missing', LIST * gives 'File extenstion missing', and LIST *.*
gives, well, nothing.
So, does anybody have (preferrably a scan of) the OASIS user's manual?
Christian
9:39 a.m.
New subject: Speaking of unusual 8080/Z80 Operating systems: MARC
Good luck with this interesting find.
SPc.
2012/10/17 Jay Jaeger <cube1 at charter.net>:
Speaking of interesting 8080/z80 operating systems,
anyone out there on the
list besides me (and the two people I mention below) ever play with Ed
Ziemba's MARC operating system (very Unix like, for the 8080 - but never
published, because Ed Ziemba passed away in an unfortunate snorkeling
accident)
I still have some copies (the latest being the CP/M hosted/"parasitic" boot
version B.9 and root file system B.3), and some paper documentation.
12:42 p.m.
New subject: Speaking of unusual 8080/Z80 Operating systems: MARC
Thanks.
I did correspond with Lauren Weinstein, and he suggested it should not
be made public. There were issues after Ed Ziemba's passing that would
make it unlikely we could get it released.
On 10/17/2012 11:39 AM, SPC wrote:
Good luck with this interesting find.
SPc.
2012/10/17 Jay Jaeger <cube1 at charter.net>:
Speaking of interesting 8080/z80 operating
systems, anyone out there on the
list besides me (and the two people I mention below) ever play with Ed
Ziemba's MARC operating system (very Unix like, for the 8080 - but never
published, because Ed Ziemba passed away in an unfortunate snorkeling
accident)
I still have some copies (the latest being the CP/M hosted/"parasitic" boot
version B.9 and root file system B.3), and some paper documentation.
9:09 a.m.
Oasis is the predeccesor of THEOS. In Bitsavers I can't locate the
OASIS System Reference Manual or the EXEC Reference Manual. This is
what you need, I think.
Regards
Sergio
2012/10/17 Christian Corti <cc at informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>:
I'd like to play with the OASIS operating system for the Altos 5-15
[...]
So, does anybody have (preferrably a scan of) the OASIS user's manual?
Christian
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