Jay: I vote for the selective moderation idea. A monthly FAQ is also a good idea. There are three things that need to be corrected on this list: - off topic volume is way too high - we need to eliminate insults, personal attacks, and language that is obviously intended to offend - subject lines need to correctly identify the content of the message when the topic has drifted Perhaps a warning to offenders, and the knowledge that you *could* put them on the moderated senders list, might be enough to correct the majority of the problem posts. I don't know why, but the other classic computer related lists I am subscribed to have almost none of these problems. On the others, I at least glance at each message. On this list, I have been forced to scan for messages that seem to have relevant subject lines, and delete 97% of the rest without even looking at them. Effectively, the garbage-senders have crowded me out of full participation in the list. On the other hand, I remain subscribed because it is the most active, and has the highest likelihood of being helpful in a short time when someone comes up with a question. -- Jonathan Engdahl Rockwell Automation Principal Research Engineer 24800 Tungsten Road Advanced Technology Euclid, OH 44117, USA Euclid Labs engdahl(a)cle.ab.com 216-266-6409