You might remember the big press release that stated that the term "Windows CE" would no longer be used, it was being replaced by the term "Windows Powered" for handheld devices. Now, I, myself, personally, enjoy the oxymoron that is created when you enclose the words "Windows" and "Powered" in the same set of parentheses, however, it still can't hide the fact that it's slow and bloated, and PalmOS is kicking it's butt. Of course, we seem to forget where it all came from, and that's my little pal the Newton. Kick-butt device, poor market positioning. Still use my MP100, will upgrade to a Newt2K when they come down a little more on ebay. <rant> And on an OT note, in the name-change vein, what brain trust decided that we should call AT&T Labs "Lucent Technologies" or take the long-respected brand name of Hewlett-Packard Instruments and start calling them "Agilent Technologies", a name that I haven't heard pronounced the same way twice, or again taking the universally-recognizable brand name of Ameritech Cellular and renaming it to the mouth-deforming "Verizon Wireless", a name which, until I finally saw it in print, I had no idea how to spell much less look up on the web. Apparently they anticipated that, since they registered every domain name based on variations of "Verizon" and routed them all to the home page.... </rant> Paul Paul Braun WD9GCO Cygnus Productions nerdware_nospam(a)laidbak.com