25 Apr
2005
25 Apr
'05
2:33 p.m.
Well I picked up the cray today, I'm not an expert but it looks like
it's either got 4 or 5 processors. It also seems to have around 30 4gb
hard drives. But there was one main problem it wouldn;t fit through
the door in my flat. So I am now slightly poorer and it has a months
storage. They guy I spoke to when I picked said it was just switched
off, put on a fork lift and moved in to the warehouse. But it seems to
have had quite a bit of cosmetic damage, I think it has been dropped
or at least knocked over. I will have to wait and see if and permenant
damage has been done, It seems to be nuclear proof. The outisde skins
are nearly a 2 man lift. We spent 4 hours stripping it down to get on
the truck. In the end we might as well of left it and put it on with a
fork lift and then took it off the other end. ho hum
Dan
25 Apr
25 Apr
3:41 p.m.
On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 19:33 +0100, Dan Williams wrote:
Well I picked up the cray today, I'm not an expert
but it looks like
it's either got 4 or 5 processors. It also seems to have around 30 4gb
hard drives.
Nice!
But there was one main problem it wouldn;t fit
through
the door in my flat. So I am now slightly poorer and it has a months
storage.
Yikes... so you're going to have to demolish the doorframe to get it
through?
cheers
Jules
4:11 p.m.
On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 19:33, Dan Williams wrote:
Well I picked up the cray today, I'm not an expert
but it looks like
it's either got 4 or 5 processors. It also seems to have around 30 4gb
hard drives. But there was one main problem it wouldn;t fit through
the door in my flat.
<snip>
The IBM 360 range ( http://www.windoweb.it/edpstory_new/eh1960_f31.jpg )
was made of modules no wider than a standard door ... should have gone
for one of those :-)
I'm not sure whether they kept to this for the bigger/later machines.
--
Lawrence Wilkinson lawrence at ljw.me.uk
Ph +44(0)1869-811059 http://www.ljw.me.uk
4:45 p.m.
On Monday 25 April 2005 15:11, Lawrence Wilkinson wrote:
On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 19:33, Dan Williams wrote:
My S/390 9672-RC4 fit nicely through the door of my apartment...but
there was still some pain maneuvering it once inside. I don't think
it'd fit through the door to the house I'm living in right now (and my
landlord would *definitely* get upset if I had to enlarge the door to
fit. Fortunately, it can reside in the garage, but that's getting a
bit full at the moment.
Pat
--
Purdue University Research Computing --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/
The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org
Well I picked up the cray today, I'm not an
expert but it looks
like it's either got 4 or 5 processors. It also seems to have
around 30 4gb hard drives. But there was one main problem it
wouldn;t fit through the door in my flat.
<snip>
The IBM 360 range (
http://www.windoweb.it/edpstory_new/eh1960_f31.jpg ) was made of
modules no wider than a standard door ... should have gone for one of
those :-)
I'm not sure whether they kept to this for the bigger/later machines. 
5:01 p.m.
On 4/25/05, Patrick Finnegan <pat at computer-refuge.org> wrote:
On Monday 25 April 2005 15:11, Lawrence Wilkinson
wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 19:33, Dan Williams wrote:
> > wouldn;t fit through the door in my flat.
> The IBM 360 range (
> http://www.windoweb.it/edpstory_new/eh1960_f31.jpg ) was made of
> modules no wider than a standard door ... should have gone for one of
there was still some pain maneuvering it once inside.
I don't think
it'd fit through the door to the house I'm living in right now (and my
landlord would *definitely* get upset if I had to enlarge the door to fit.
You can get approx. 2-3" extra clearance by simply removing the
?rails? and sometimes even the face boards that cover the actual posts
which support the lintel. This is trivial to do with a pry bar and
claw hammer on most typical apartments and homes. It also works to
get a baja car and several large rocks into the front lobby of your
school's engineering department as a prank.
-dhbarr.
?not sure what these are called, but they are inside the post and
lintels and form an outline of the door?
6:47 p.m.
New subject: IBM 360 (was Re: Cray picked up today)
Lawrence wrote:
The IBM 360 range (
http://www.windoweb.it/edpstory_new/eh1960_f31.jpg )
was made of modules no wider than a standard door ... should have gone
for one of those :-)
If you (or anyone) know of any 360 or 370 machines that are available,
please let me know, as I'd like to try to get another 360 or 370 for
the Computer History Museum (www.computerhistory.org).
It should be noted that I'm not officially acting on their behalf;
I only do volunteer work (e.g., PDP-1 Restoration Project), and they
haven't asked me to find more machines for them. I just think they
should have them. :-)
Currently CHM has an IBM 360/30. The internal condition is apparently
not very good, though I haven't looked inside it myself. But I really
hope that we can restore some model of 360 (or 370) in the future.
Having an operational 360 system that people could submit jobs to
via punched cards (or maybe RJE over the internet) would really rock!
The CHM setup includes some 2311 disk drives and 24xx tape drives, but
apparently not control units for them. And I'm willing to donate a
2540 Card Read Punch to CHM to use with it, but I don't have the 2821
control unit that was used for that and the 1403 printer. :-(
Eric
26 Apr
26 Apr
6:58 p.m.
New subject: IBM 360 (was Re: Cray picked up today)
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:47:57 -0700 (PDT)
"Eric Smith" <eric at brouhaha.com> wrote:
Lawrence wrote:
All I have is an official IBM 360 Ashtray that I got from my father. I
mentioned it to him recently, he says that it's probably pretty rare
because it was an executive-only promotional perk.
It's probably been a few years since IBM produced a matching ash tray to
go with one of their mainframe systems.
I have a wooden THINK desk sign, too. No IBM mainframe collector should
be without one of those.
-Scott
The IBM 360 range (
http://www.windoweb.it/edpstory_new/eh1960_f31.jpg ) was made of
modules no wider than a standard door ... should have gone for one
of those :-)
If you (or anyone) know of any 360 or 370 machines that are available,
please let me know, as I'd like to try to get another 360 or 370 for
the Computer History Museum (www.computerhistory.org).
It should be noted that I'm not officially acting on their behalf;
I only do volunteer work (e.g., PDP-1 Restoration Project), and they
haven't asked me to find more machines for them. I just think they
should have them. :-)
Currently CHM has an IBM 360/30. The internal condition is apparently
not very good, though I haven't looked inside it myself. But I really
hope that we can restore some model of 360 (or 370) in the future.
Having an operational 360 system that people could submit jobs to
via punched cards (or maybe RJE over the internet) would really rock!
The CHM setup includes some 2311 disk drives and 24xx tape drives, but
apparently not control units for them. And I'm willing to donate a
2540 Card Read Punch to CHM to use with it, but I don't have the 2821
control unit that was used for that and the 1403 printer. :-(
Eric 
27 Apr
27 Apr
2:57 p.m.
New subject: IBM 360 (was Re: Cray picked up today)
Re:
If you (or anyone) know of any 360 or 370 machines
that are available,
please let me know, as I'd like to try to get another 360 or 370 for
the Computer History Museum (www.computerhistory.org).
A friend from Africa suggested looking at some African countries
that bought a lot of ancient 360s in the 70s and 80s ... he
says many are still running. Unfortunately, I can't
contact him. Still, this might be something to pursue.
One avenue might be to contact US embassies in various
African countries and ask their business development staff/person
to look around.
--
Stan Sieler
sieler at allegro.com
www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html
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