25 May
2010
25 May
'10
1:16 p.m.
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 00:42:20 -0400
From: Evan Koblentz <evan at snarc.net>
Subject: re: Anyone off to VCF-UK
I didn't read any of this thread until tonight,
when I read the whole
thing ... and now I have a headache. :)
--
Maybe from the mental effort of finding new ways to twist other
peoples' words and reply as judgementally and rudely as possible?
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>Tony wrote: >>> What benefit would there
be to the rest of the classic
>computer community if I visited such an event
...VCF attendees (and most exhibitors) don't attend
with the attitude,
"Everyone is there to see ME" -- they go with the attitude of, "I'm
there
to see everyone else." ... Anyone non-celebrity who thinks their
personal attendance is for others' benefit -- well, such people won't
be missed.
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I don't think Tony said or suggested anything of the sort; apparently
his reason for attending would not be to "see everyone else," but to
see (and perhaps share some of his) interesting computer items.
But you value only the knowledge, experience, etc. of "celebrities"?
I suspect that if everyone who attends these affairs primarily in order
to give others the possibility to see and/or learn about their interesting
items or experience stayed away then they would be sorely missed.
Apparently others on this list *would* have valued his attendance and
were even prepared to pay his way, and I think Tony's just humbly
asking why it's so important to these folks to persuade him to go.
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Tony wrote, ...
> I do have sufficient reservations about ... who it appears to be
>aimed at that I will not be attending.
It's aimed at all the same kinds of people who
attend every other VCF.
you're saying you won't attend because you don't like "those" kind
of
nerds?
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He said nothing of the sort; he said that in his judgement it is not
aimed at somone like him any more than a dog show or exhibition
of the latest sex toys might be, and he is choosing not to spend his
time and money (especially others' money) in order to attend.
He might be wrong of course and if he had attended he might well
have enjoyed it, but it is his choice after all; why does that offend
and upset so many people?
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>> I do hope the event is a success, though.
Gee ... thanks.
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Most ungracious, but hardly surprising considering the source...
mike
25 May
25 May
4:18 p.m.
I didn't read any of this thread until tonight,
when I read the whole
thing ... and now I have a headache. :)
--
Maybe from the mental effort of finding new ways to twist other
peoples' words and reply as judgementally and rudely as possible?
Learn to recognize smiley faces. Geez.
I suspect that if everyone who attends these affairs
primarily in
order to give others the possibility to see and/or learn about their
interesting items or experience stayed away then they would be sorely
missed.
And I'm telling you that in all my VCF experience, including as the *
organizer * of four very successful editions, I've found that people
(attendees and exhibitors alike) go because they relish the community
aspects. Sure it's fun to show off your exhibit, but most people get
the most kicks from meeting their fellow collectors, etc.
I think Tony's just humbly asking why it's so
important to these folks
to persuade him to go.
I think Tony's being an ungrateful schmuck.
he said that in his judgement it is not aimed at
somone like him any
more than a dog show or exhibition of the latest sex toys might be
"There might be common, non-serious collectors present! I'm too good
for THOSE people!" Ugh .... spare us.
He might be wrong of course and if he had attended he
might well have
enjoyed it, but it is his choice after all; why does that offend and
upset so many people?
It offends and upsets me because he's not just saying, "Thanks, but no
thanks;" instead he's insulting the entire VCF franchise, all computer
museums, and all people who attend such things.
Gee ... thanks.
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Most ungracious, but hardly surprising considering the source...
Not worth replying to that comment.
4:50 p.m.
And I'm telling you that in all my VCF experience,
including as the *
organizer * of four very successful editions, I've found that people
(attendees and exhibitors alike) go because they relish the community
aspects. ?Sure it's fun to show off your exhibit, but most people get the
most kicks from meeting their fellow collectors, etc.
Like any show - computers, cars, dogs, model trains, stamps, sex toys
- always far more social than stuff-oriented.
Sure, the "stuff" is important, but I would bet you could hold a very
good VCF with *nobody* bringing *any* machines.
Just make sure you get enough pizzas and beer.
--
Will
5:37 p.m.
But make it *good* beer - or it's beneath my notice. <flame-on!>
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From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
William Donzelli [wdonzelli at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:50 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Anyone off to VCF-UK
And I'm telling you that in all my VCF experience,
including as the *
organizer * of four very successful editions, I've found that people
(attendees and exhibitors alike) go because they relish the community
aspects. Sure it's fun to show off your exhibit, but most people get the
most kicks from meeting their fellow collectors, etc.
Like any show - computers, cars, dogs, model trains, stamps, sex toys
- always far more social than stuff-oriented.
Sure, the "stuff" is important, but I would bet you could hold a very
good VCF with *nobody* bringing *any* machines.
Just make sure you get enough pizzas and beer.
--
Will
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