On 4/1/2011 9:48 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
On 28 March 2011 21:15, Tony Duell<ard at
don't do business w/heathen atheists. I'm also a vegetarian
If this is s joke, I think it's in very bad taste. If not, I think it's
I agree. Sadly, it is a common and entirely typical type of response
from American religious types online. I have been thrown off mailing
lists and subjected to hate-mail campaigns repeatedly for not agreeing
with their professed religion.
I actually thought his post was comical.(not in a haha way, but a "Are
you really serious?" way) I'm not particularly religious. His comment
was so over the top that he was likely trolling for a response. Either
way, the best way to handle it is to ignore it --- don't feed the trolls.
While I really don't want to defend bad treatment you may have received
in the past from your so-called-American-religious-types, I'd argue that
in terms of tolerance, you can do considerably worse in dealings with
several other cultures. I think that any form of extremism, whether it
be religious or otherwise, is bad. There are religions that
specifically teach intolerance(and much worse) but my experience with
Catholicism (for example) is that this isn't one of them. It's actually
quite the opposite.
As you correctly point out, bad behavior, like what you are talking
about above, is specifically NOT consistent with the teachings and is in
direct contradiction. I believe there are some internal inconsistencies
with the source material to begin with --- so there problems to overcome
there, anyways --- but I think they are on pretty safe ground in this
department in most (all?) contemporary teachings. Not that this was true
historically, of course.
While I'm trying to avoid becoming the spokesperson for any particular
faith (or faith in general --- and frankly, normally find myself on the
other side of this argument!) we are taught to open our arms and try to
bring offenders back around to much more reasonable ground. I
personally see really bad behavior (and I think the original comment was
fairly tame) like you mentioned to be a mental deficiency -- as a type
of personality disorder. I find it helpful to consider the person as
being "sick"(ala a cold, or a flu) and in need of care and education.
Most police stations, for example, deal with crazy people with
considerably more "kid gloves" than what I call "bad guys" even though
their outward behaviors might be identical. The police want to get
these guys help, and they do so through a hospital, not through rough
treatment in jail.
P.S. This is my personal experience. I'm definitely NOT an expert on
any of the topics here!