I know what you mean. There were two awesome CDC 609 available semi locally recently. Carl and I fantasized to pick them up. When we looked at the weight, clearer mind prevailed and we gave up. Not sure what happened to them. Marc ================================================ Subject: Re: Manual for the Overland Data OD3201 Tape Drive? My favorite drive is/are the CDC 607/609. Wonderful units--1500 lbs., IIRC. At any rate, you wouldn't want one to fall on you. Less so the 65x and 66x drives. --Chuck