On 11/02/2012 02:15 PM, Earl Evans wrote:
Greetings,
I love the dual RL02 drives on my PDP-11/23+. It's great fun to hear them
spin up, and they are a neat conversation piece. However, I fear that
ongoing operation will eventually lead to their demise (as with all
things). I'd like to move to a (slightly) newer technology.
My goal is to:
1. Purchase a Seagate ST-225 or ST-251 hard drive in working condition.
2. Build a cable and interface assembly as described at
http://home.windstream.net/engdahl/rqdx3.htm, and put the drive in an
external case/PSU.
Avoid the ST251 they tended to fail often and way to often. The
225 is
bullet proof.
The RQDX3 can run up to 3 or 4 of them.
3. Properly insert my RQDX3 (in my stock, but not in
the machine) into the
PDP, and connect to the drive.
NOTE: make sure the grant chain is not broken or the
card can be the
last on
in the chain.
4. Use the ZRQCH0 utility in XXDP (perhaps loaded from
a TU58 emulator) to
format the drive as a RD31 or RD32 (depending on the Seagate model).
5. Determine how to boot from RT-11, and perhaps TSX-Plus.
Anything you bit required the MSCP boot for the RQDX3 and if the CPU is
the 23+
then you have it as DUxx.
Is this doable? Will the KDF11-BA built-in
bootstrapper ROM boot from a
RQDX3? Also, my RQDX3 card is assumed working, but untested. Is there any
way to test the controller board functionality without having a drive
attached?
Controller without drive should be at the Default address and the Boot
DU driver
should see it though it may return a no media or drive not ready error
for no drive.
The X11/XXDP diagnostics can test it if you have them.
I've done this and what you propose will definitely work is the wiring
is correct
and the drive jumpers are set right (Should be set for ST225 as Rd31
from memory)
The only difference I've done is
my drives are RD52s (quantum D540 31mb
full height MFM).
If the chassis is a MicroPDP-11 (ba23) then the only thing you need is
cables as the RQDXn
to disk break out board is there. If its BA11 Then you can use the
BA123 breakout board
M9058 and that allows for up to 4 drives any mix of floppy or HD and the
cables are simple
50, 34 and 26 pin with IDC headers. Note that board due to sockets is
thick (3 slots) and requires
ground, +5V but does not have to be in the backplane though it has the
connector to do that (note it does not generate interrupts or any other
bus signal) so it can
be in the last open slot it fits in. I use that and RQDX3 to add
floppies, hard disks or both
to any Qbus system. The RX33 is Teac FD55GFR though RX23 (3.5" floppy)
is also possible
if the firmware is late rev.
The M9058 is the standard distribution board used in all BA123 based
system to go from
RQDX 2 or 3 to floppies and hard disks. They can be found and cheap as
most have no clue
what they are or how to use it outside the BA123. It's a simple board
that breaks to 50pin
out to the drives and also allows for drive enable and write protect
lights and switches.
Those light and switches are not required but easily made and fun to
have. the select logic
allows up to 4 hard drive drives or the the mix can be one floppy and
3-4 HD. The floppy
is nominally RX50 or RX33.
NOTE: if you use the M9058 then it can be put int he box with Floppies
and hard disk
where it gets power and connected to the main system via RQDX2 or 3
using a simple
50pin to 50 pin IDC headered cable up to 4ft long (never tried longer
but may work).
I have 4 systems PDP11-23+ set up this way 3 in BA11 and one BA23
(microPDP11)
and a few uVAX in BA23 and BA123 . The large system (J11 based ) has
RX02, RL02, RD52*2, RX33 and makes file transfer and all much easier. I
nominally run RT11XM on it.
Allison
Thanks for any thoughts!
- Earl