7 May
2005
7 May
'05
4:17 p.m.
ISTR someone looking for one of these 5153 IBM CGA Monitors.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5194458575
No connection with sale.
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Paxton Hoag
Astoria, OR
USA
8 May
8 May
5:15 p.m.
Paxton Hoag wrote:
ISTR someone looking for one of these 5153 IBM CGA
Monitors.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5194458575
No connection with sale.
Hmm, $10 + $30 shipping inside the continental USA --
that's $40 for a CGA monitor! Glad I have a few 5153s
stashed away . . . out of curiosity, are they hard to
find now?
Glen
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8:01 p.m.
Glen Goodwin wrote:
Hmm, $10 + $30 shipping inside the continental USA --
that's $40 for a CGA monitor! Glad I have a few 5153s
stashed away . . . out of curiosity, are they hard to
find now?
God, I hope not! There's one at a local shop that isn't going away any time
soon; $10 if memory serves. I have one working set up on my other desk... I
love those things. There were probably other CGA monitors made that were
better, but I like the styling of the 5153 as it matches my 5150.
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9:49 p.m.
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Glen Goodwin wrote:
time
Hmm, $10 + $30 shipping inside the continental
USA --
that's $40 for a CGA monitor! Glad I have a few 5153s
stashed away . . . out of curiosity, are they hard to
find now?
God, I hope not! There's one at a local shop that isn't going away any
soon; $10 if memory serves. I have one working set up
on my other desk...
I
love those things. There were probably other CGA
monitors made that were
better, but I like the styling of the 5153 as it matches my 5150.
--
Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org)
http://www.oldskool.org/
Want to help an ambitious games project?
http://www.mobygames.com/
Or check out some trippy MindCandy at
http://www.mindcandydvd.com/
So who did make the best CGA monitor? The only one I have is a Tandy CM-11
on my Tandy 1000HX.
9 May
9 May
6:58 p.m.
So who did make the best CGA monitor? The only one I
have is a Tandy CM-11
Barco? I would be suprised if they didn't make a monitor with digital
RGBI inputs, and back then Barco mnitors were nothing short of excellent.
Don't US TVs have RGB inputs? Almost all UK/European ones do. Admittedly
they're analogue, with a separate composite sync signal, but it's fairly
easy to convert the CGA signals into that.
-tony
10 May
10 May
10:03 a.m.
>>>> "Tony" == Tony Duell <ard
at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> writes:
Tony> Don't US TVs have RGB inputs? Almost all UK/European ones
Tony> do.
Interesting, that must be something new. Not around here; high end
monitors might, but your average TV set starts with an RF input, next
would add composite video, then S-video, finally "component video"
which is the 3 components of the color TV transmission split apart.
After that you might see the digital video interface, and RGB.
paul
10:45 a.m.
Many new TV, especially HDTV's are now coming with a plethora of inputs,
most TV's now have the RF/Composite and SVideo as standard or at least
one the low end RF & Composite. HDTV's have all of those, plus
component, HDMI and VGA in.
A lot of early high end Sony TV's had RGB in, you can find some great
20-27" used Sony TVs with all inputs for very good prices on Ebay and
those TVs last forever it seems, really good quality tubes and flybacks.
Curt
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>>>>"Tony" == Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> writes:
>>>>
>>>>
Tony> Don't US TVs have RGB inputs? Almost all UK/European ones
Tony> do.
Interesting, that must be something new. Not around here; high end
monitors might, but your average TV set starts with an RF input, next
would add composite video, then S-video, finally "component video"
which is the 3 components of the color TV transmission split apart.
After that you might see the digital video interface, and RGB.
paul
4:57 p.m.
Paul Koning wrote:
Most UK televisions outside the really, *really* budget level have RGB
inputs, and have had for about 15 years...
Gordon.
>>>>"Tony" == Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> writes:
Tony> Don't US TVs have RGB inputs? Almost all UK/European ones
Tony> do.
Interesting, that must be something new. Not around here; high end 
11 May
11 May
4:04 a.m.
Hi,
Gordon JC Pearce said:
Paul Koning wrote:
Most UK televisions outside the really, *really* budget level have RGB
inputs, and have had for about 15 years...
The tv in my den here (UK) is a *real* budget 14-inch one, it has SCART
and composite video in. The black and white 5-inch portable I bought
last year (to run my ZX-81) cost about 25 pounds ($45) - that has
composite video in.
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The future was never like this!
>>>>"Tony" == Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> writes:
Tony> Don't US TVs have RGB inputs? Almost all UK/European ones
Tony> do.
Interesting, that must be something new. Not around here; high end 
13 May
13 May
2:16 a.m.
On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 09:04 +0100, Stan Barr wrote:
Yeah, but likely the RGB in isn't wired. Pretty much every
TV made in
Europe since some time in the 80s has had SCART, but the RGB signal is
probably a fairly new thing.
--
Tore S Bekkedal <toresbe at ifi.uio.no>
Most UK
televisions outside the really, *really* budget level have RGB
inputs, and have had for about 15 years...
The tv in my den here (UK) is a *real* budget 14-inch one, it has SCART
and composite video in. The black and white 5-inch portable I bought
last year (to run my ZX-81) cost about 25 pounds ($45) - that has
composite video in. 
4:55 a.m.
On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 08:16 +0200, Tore S Bekkedal wrote:
On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 09:04 +0100, Stan Barr wrote:
Yeah, but likely the RGB in isn't wired. Pretty much every
TV made in
Europe since some time in the 80s has had SCART, but the RGB signal is
probably a fairly new thing.
Surely it's easier to provide RGB inputs than composite though - to do
RGB (and seperate sync inputs) isn't it almost as simple as feeding the
signals into the right point of the existing TV circuitry, whereas to
cope with composite you'd need circuitry to split the signals out at
extra cost?
You could well be right though - I'm almost certain that my Domesday
setup (which only does video overlay on RGB outputs) wouldn't work with
my cheap 14" TV via the SCART connector when I tried it.
cheers
Jules
Most UK
televisions outside the really, *really* budget level have RGB
inputs, and have had for about 15 years...
The tv in my den here (UK) is a *real* budget 14-inch one, it has SCART
and composite video in. The black and white 5-inch portable I bought
last year (to run my ZX-81) cost about 25 pounds ($45) - that has
composite video in.
6:44 p.m.
Surely it's easier to provide RGB inputs than
composite though - to do
RGB (and seperate sync inputs) isn't it almost as simple as feeding the
signals into the right point of the existing TV circuitry, whereas to
cope with composite you'd need circuitry to split the signals out at
extra cost?
Yes, but that circuity -- the colour decoder -- must exist in a TV
anyway. The signal you get from the video detector (at the output of the
video IF strip) is essentially a composite video signal.
RGB is slightly harder to provide (you have to switch 3 or 4 signals, not
just 1), but only slighty.
You could well be right though - I'm almost certain that my Domesday
setup (which only does video overlay on RGB outputs) wouldn't work with
my cheap 14" TV via the SCART connector when I tried it.
That could be a lot of things, including not enabling the RGB inputs on
the SCART connector. This is sometimes done by selecting a special
'channel' with the remote control, sometimes by applying 12V or so to the
right pin on the SCART connector. Do you have a service manual for the TV
(and if not, why the heck not?)
-tony
6:41 p.m.
Yeah, but likely the RGB in isn't wired. Pretty
much every TV made in
Europe since some time in the 80s has had SCART, but the RGB signal is
probably a fairly new thing.
Perhaps I've been lucky (or have never worked on really low-end stuff),
but every _TV_ I've worked on with a SCART socket has had the RGB pins
wired up (as inputs). Conversely, I've never seen a VCR with the RGB pins
used.
-tony
10 May
10 May
6:39 p.m.
>>>> "Tony" == Tony Duell
<ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> writes:
Tony> Don't US TVs have RGB inputs? Almost all UK/European ones
Tony> do.
Interesting, that must be something new. Not around here; high end 
9 May
9 May
1:50 a.m.
On Sun, 8 May 2005, Glen Goodwin wrote:
Paxton Hoag wrote:
They're certainly less common than they used to be, but there are still,
I'd guess, thousands out there.
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ISTR someone looking for one of these 5153 IBM
CGA Monitors.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5194458575
No connection with sale.
Hmm, $10 + $30 shipping inside the continental USA --
that's $40 for a CGA monitor! Glad I have a few 5153s
stashed away . . . out of curiosity, are they hard to
find now?
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