1 Sep
1999
1 Sep
'99
5:37 a.m.
Hi,
How common are 16-sector hard sectored disks?
I found some disks for my AES 7100, and that's what they are (17
holes!).
Unfortunately, the only Software disk I found only boots part way. The
other disks are Data disks, and they give me an error when I try to boot
from them. <s>
But at least now I know that the screen works. :)
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1 Sep
1 Sep
11:58 a.m.
How common are 16-sector hard sectored disks?
Not very common.
I found some disks for my AES 7100, and that's what they are (17
holes!).
Yep, index plus 16 sector holes. The 17th one is oddly positioned to the
rest so the system can tell it's at the start/end of the media.
Oh, 10 sector (NS*) have 11 holes (if you want to be picky 12... theres
that big one dead center<grin>).
Unfortunately, the only Software disk I found only
boots part way. The
other disks are Data disks, and they give me an error when I try to boot
from them. <s>
No idea on the system used, likely unique to them.
Allison
11:49 p.m.
On 01-Sep-99, allisonp(a)world.std.com wrote:
> How common are 16-sector hard sectored disks?
Not very common.
Well, at least I can make some more from soft sectored disks once I find
my mother's miniature hole punch. :)
> I found some disks for my AES 7100, and that's
what they are (17
> holes!).
Yep, index plus 16 sector holes. The 17th one is oddly
positioned to
the rest so the system can tell it's at the start/end of the media.
Yup, I noticed that. Before I had seen a hard sectored disk I didn't
know how that would be accomplished. I thought that maybe the sector
holes would be at a different distance from the centre of the disk, with
another hole in the jacket. I prefer the solution that was used in the
real world - less wasted disk surface! :)
Oh, 10 sector (NS*) have 11 holes (if you want to be
picky 12... theres
that big one dead center<grin>).
I have ONE 10-sector disk that was sent to me by a member of this list a
while back, in an attempt to get this AES box to do something. But not
even the drive light would turn on with that disk.
It likes the 16-sector ones, though. The lights come on, the head
moves, and then an error message comes up on the screen. :)
> Unfortunately, the only Software disk I found only
boots part way.
> The other disks are Data disks, and they give me an error when I
> try to boot from them. <s>
No idea on the system used, likely unique to them.
Yes, I'm afraid so. And the flaky software disk I have even has the
name of the company it was registered to stamped on it. I doubt I'll be
finding much WaR3Z for this machine. :)
It's an 'office system'. It's primarily a word processor, but it can
join a network, and can do some number crunching and database functions
with the standard software. I found the disks inside some pockets
behind the front cover of a manual I found. Unfortunately, I didn't get
the full set of disks. And the back cover of the manual was missing,
possibly with the rest of the disks.
Its software is disk-based, though, so if I could a) dump the bootstrap
to disk and b) access the disks on some other machine, I could
conceivably write my own OS for it.
Apparently there was a version of CP/M for some AES boxes floating about
out there.
Allison
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12:11 p.m.
Doug Spence wrote:
Hi,
How common are 16-sector hard sectored disks?
I found some disks for my AES 7100, and that's what they are (17
holes!).
You didn't say whether they were 5 1/4" or 8" floppies (I'm not
familiar
with the AES 7100.) The 5 1/4" disks were used on, among others, the Vector
Graphic S-100 computers.
2 Sep
2 Sep
7:22 a.m.
On 01-Sep-99, Marvin wrote:
Doug Spence wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> How common are 16-sector hard sectored disks?
>
> I found some disks for my AES 7100, and that's what they are (17
> holes!).
You didn't say whether they were 5 1/4" or
8" floppies (I'm not
familiar with the AES 7100.)
Sorry. They're 5.25" disks.
If you have a graphics-capable browser, you can see my AES 7100 at:
http://www.total.net/~hrothgar/museum/AES7100/index.html
The 5 1/4" disks were used on, among others, the
Vector Graphic
S-100 computers.
OK, so at least the media wasn't specially produced for AES. :)
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1 Sep
1 Sep
10:08 p.m.
At 04:37 AM 9/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
Hi,
How common are 16-sector hard sectored disks?
Do you mean 5 1/4" disks? I have some for one of the Vector Graphics
machines. I don't know of any other machine that used 16s 5 1/4" disks but
I'm sure there were some. All of the hard sectored floppy disks are pretty
scarce IMO. I pick up all of them that I can. I recently lucked into a
bunch of 32s 8" floppies. I have two machines that use them.
Joe
11:31 p.m.
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Joe wrote:
At 04:37 AM 9/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
I have a few Compudata 'Exidy' Hardsector disks that are apparently of
European origin that are 16hs x 5.25".
- don
Hi,
How common are 16-sector hard sectored disks?
Do you mean 5 1/4" disks? I have some for one of the Vector Graphics
machines. I don't know of any other machine that used 16s 5 1/4" disks but
I'm sure there were some. All of the hard sectored floppy disks are pretty
scarce IMO. I pick up all of them that I can. I recently lucked into a
bunch of 32s 8" floppies. I have two machines that use them.
Joe
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